Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[tommcfc]

no way, too old and so so so overrated

IDIOT

no need to act like a total twat when someone's opinion differs from yours.
Its a fact that he is too old, would be 31 next season. I also think he is incredibly overrated, moved on from one big club to another because he is, by all accounts an idiot as well.

 

[MaxMCFC]

Soo over rated

 

[zeven]

no way, too old and so so so overrated

IDIOT

no need to act like a total twat when someone's opinion differs from yours.
Its a fact that he is too old, would be 31 next season. I also think he is incredibly overrated, moved on from one big club to another because he is, by all accounts an idiot as well.

Its the ignorance i act on.

Its quite strange, that some UK ppl who dont follow him weeklay and just base their view on a couple of games and what UK papers write.

Why not ask the managers who have managed him like, Mancini,Mournho,Capello,Allgeri all of them rate him as one of the best in the world, but you guys knows better of cource!

why not take look at the milan forum, or the inter milan forum when he played there. or the barca forum

Strange that the ppl who see him on a weekly basis, adore him thinks he is the best player on their team and gets the MOTM almost every game and sees him as the most important player.

So tell me how can everyone who sees him or manage him be wrong, and a couple of english fellas be right!

You may not want him, thats ok,

 

[MattyBlue20]

IDIOT

no need to act like a total twat when someone's opinion differs from yours.
Its a fact that he is too old, would be 31 next season. I also think he is incredibly overrated, moved on from one big club to another because he is, by all accounts an idiot as well.

Its the ignorance i act on.

Its quite strange, that some UK ppl who dont follow him weeklay and just base their view on a couple of games and what UK papers write.

Why not ask the managers who have managed him like, Mancini,Mournho,Capello,Allgeri all of them rate him as one of the best in the world, but you guys knows better of cource!

why not take look at the milan forum, or the inter milan forum when he played there. or the barca forum

Strange that the ppl who see him on a weekly basis, adore him thinks he is the best player on their team and gets the MOTM almost every game and sees him as the most important player.

So tell me how can everyone who sees him or manage him be wrong, and a couple of english fellas be right!

You may not want him, thats ok,

Dead right Zeven,

How can you say he is overrated when he's been as successful as he has?

You don't win the league by luck, ask our boys on Sunday, they have worked hard for years to reach a top level and you saying he's "overrated" is childish way of saying you don't like him which is fair enough, but at least provide an argument for it.

We are all here to write an opinion. Zevens country of birth doesn't change Ibrahimovic's ability to play excellent football and win many trophies and championships.

 

[tommcfc]

no need to act like a total twat when someone's opinion differs from yours.
Its a fact that he is too old, would be 31 next season. I also think he is incredibly overrated, moved on from one big club to another because he is, by all accounts an idiot as well.

Its the ignorance i act on.

Its quite strange, that some UK ppl who dont follow him weeklay and just base their view on a couple of games and what UK papers write.

Why not ask the managers who have managed him like, Mancini,Mournho,Capello,Allgeri all of them rate him as one of the best in the world, but you guys knows better of cource!

why not take look at the milan forum, or the inter milan forum when he played there. or the barca forum

Strange that the ppl who see him on a weekly basis, adore him thinks he is the best player on their team and gets the MOTM almost every game and sees him as the most important player.

So tell me how can everyone who sees him or manage him be wrong, and a couple of english fellas be right!

You may not want him, thats ok,

Dead right Zeven,

How can you say he is overrated when he's been as successful as he has?

You don't win the league by luck, ask our boys on Sunday, they have worked hard for years to reach a top level and you saying he's "overrated" is childish way of saying you don't like him which is fair enough, but at least provide an argument for it.

We are all here to write an opinion. Zevens country of birth doesn't change Ibrahimovic's ability to play excellent football and win many trophies and championships.

Firstly, I never mentioned zeven's country of birth, so not sure why that's been brought up, didn't even know he was sweedish.
I said i thought Ibrahimovic was too old which, at 31, he is. I also said I think he's overrated because he chokes in the big games and fails to deliver when it really matters.He's never won the champions league and his goal scoring rate in the champions league isn't as good as his league form, backing up my argument that he chokes in the big matches.

 

[zeven]

Its the ignorance i act on.

Its quite strange, that some UK ppl who dont follow him weeklay and just base their view on a couple of games and what UK papers write.

Why not ask the managers who have managed him like, Mancini,Mournho,Capello,Allgeri all of them rate him as one of the best in the world, but you guys knows better of cource!

why not take look at the milan forum, or the inter milan forum when he played there. or the barca forum

Strange that the ppl who see him on a weekly basis, adore him thinks he is the best player on their team and gets the MOTM almost every game and sees him as the most important player.

So tell me how can everyone who sees him or manage him be wrong, and a couple of english fellas be right!

You may not want him, thats ok,

Dead right Zeven,

How can you say he is overrated when he's been as successful as he has?

You don't win the league by luck, ask our boys on Sunday, they have worked hard for years to reach a top level and you saying he's "overrated" is childish way of saying you don't like him which is fair enough, but at least provide an argument for it.

We are all here to write an opinion. Zevens country of birth doesn't change Ibrahimovic's ability to play excellent football and win many trophies and championships.

Firstly, I never mentioned zeven's country of birth, so not sure why that's been brought up, didn't even know he was sweedish.
I said i thought Ibrahimovic was too old which, at 31, he is. I also said I think he's overrated because he chokes in the big games and fails to deliver when it really matters.He's never won the champions league and his goal scoring rate in the champions league isn't as good as his league form, backing up my argument that he chokes in the big matches.

True it was not you who pointed out my country of birth, was another member of this forum.

He has scored against all big teams except United. he has won important games in derbys by himself, he even scored the title decider for Inter once. scored against Barca,Arsenal,Ajax,Milan,Juventus,Inter.

Ok he has yet to win CL, but its not really fair to say its Ibras fault for not doing so.
RVP havent won CL for Arsenal, does that make him over rated?
Ronaldo have yet to win it with RM does the make him overrated.

There are plenty of world class player out there who havent won the CL for their teams

 

[paul140]

IMO He is more lazy and sulky than Robinho and Anelka put together and there are other alternative strikers out there at a better age and price and less baggage.

 

[unlikelyfan19]

I apologize if this is the consensus, I have only read a few pages. Does anyone else not want this guy anywhere near our club. He has a good record of winning championships but I don't think his attitude reflects the standards this club is trying to produce. No thanks, would rather have guys that are on the bring of becoming world superstars like Hazard, Aguero, and Silva, rather the guys that think they would be doing us a favor by signing with us.

 

[zeven]

IMO He is more lazy and sulky than Robinho and Anelka put together and there are other alternative strikers out there at a better age and price and less baggage.

Top goal scorer in Italy this year.
Best point to game ratio in away games in Europe.
won more league titles than most any other player in the last ten years
9 or 10 assits this season as well.

have been consistent over 10 years in 3 different countries and one of the most important players in every team he has played for.

But sure he is lazy and dont do much for his team.

 

[dais4773]

I would love to see him here if it is possible to work out an economic solution that is good for City.

Regarding his age, it is true he will probably only have a couple of years of absolute top football left in him. But to say he has already past his peak is ignorant in my opinion. He scored 28 goals in Serie A this season - more than he has ever done before. As already mentioned by others Ibra shouldn't however be seen as primarily a goal scorer. His passing skills is amazing and has just improved for every year.

I actually think he would fit very well into City, playing in a role behind Aguero.
Obviously it would be optimal to sign a 24 year old world class attacker to play that role instead, but I'm not so sure who that would be. Balotelli could be that player in the future, but he still has a lot to learn, obviously.

If Ibra signs for City we could realistically get 2-4 years of top football from him. At the same time he could be a very good mentor for Balotelli who then hopefully can take that role in the future.

However, it all comes down to how expensive the transfer would be. A deal involving Dzeko and perhaps some other City player going to city could be a good solution for both teams.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Given what Bobby has done to bring this squad close together as a unit I really think that zlatan's ego would rock the boat way too much - his record is great but the possibility of hurting team spirit is much too big a risk for me

 

[zeven]

Given what Bobby has done to bring this squad close together as a unit I really think that zlatan's ego would rock the boat way too much - his record is great but the possibility of hurting team spirit is much too big a risk for me

Thats not what his fellow milan players have gone out ansd said this week.

You cant have enough leaders and winners in your team, just look at Liverpool most pathetic group of midtable losers in the league, and their mentality reflect their 8ah place.

Look at chelsea, Terry,Lempard and Drogba they are leaders.

I only see one true leader in our team Kompany maybe two with Yaya. If we can get one more strong character with great mentality and leader skills now when Patric is no longer playing, that can only be a good thing when we are out of form.


Look at united. quite average team for their standards, but what they do have is, Leaders and winners mentality like Ferdinand,Evra,Rooney,scholes,Giggs half their point telly comes from this.


You can se the difference between Micah he though we lost it! but Balotelli told him NO, we will win. thats the mentality we want! its a reason Balotelli have been at his best in the big games where we needed someone to step up!!

Its a reason Mancini always goes on with the mentality thing

 

[dais4773]

Given what Bobby has done to bring this squad close together as a unit I really think that zlatan's ego would rock the boat way too much - his record is great but the possibility of hurting team spirit is much too big a risk for me

I just cannot see that happening. Zlatan doesn't have an history of hurting team spirit in the clubs he has played for. Even in Barcelona, the only problem was between him and Pep, he got along quite well with the other players.

An exception is the tension between him and Van der Vaart when they both played for Ajax. They were both up and coming and wanted to be the stars in the club which resulted in some friction. This was however almost 10 years ago, and Zlatan has matured quite a bit since then (Ajax won the league that year as well so it probably didn't damage the club in a significant way).

Mancini probably knows this better than any of us however. If he wants Ibra to City I am certain he is certain that it won't stir any problems within the team.

 

[Astuteboy]

Firstly, I never mentioned zeven's country of birth, so not sure why that's been brought up, didn't even know he was sweedish.
I said i thought Ibrahimovic was too old which, at 31, he is. I also said I think he's overrated because he chokes in the big games and fails to deliver when it really matters.He's never won the champions league and his goal scoring rate in the champions league isn't as good as his league form, backing up my argument that he chokes in the big matches.

This is a very fair point as well; I've seen a lot of Zlatan in Serie A and he's been great. Like many I've also seen him in big CL games and international games where he has often failed to deliver. I think this is why a lot of people don't rate him; they see him only in the big games and when he doesn't deliver, they assume he's overrated.

Settled and in his comfort zone, he's a hell of a player no doubt, but if he came for big money and didn't settle either into our squad or the Premier League in general, it would be a disaster. And as mentioned with him turning 31 this year, we're not going to be able to afford to give him a season to settle.

I personally think we're in a position now to build a squad that can last; for similar reasons I wouldn't have taken Drogba when we had the option a couple of seasons ago, but I appreciate not everyone shares that view.

But hey, if he comes hopefully he'll do the business! But I won't be losing any sleep if he doesn't.

 

[brad147690]

Lethal and skillful finisher at times.

Worth a gamble with his league title record.

 

[Davs 19]

Zeven only wants Ibra because he's Swedish, let him carry on ranting with himself.

Thats is just so lame and stupid. Why on earth would i want that?

I want whats best for the team NOTHING ELS. There is NO other Swedish player i want here, and i dont want to spend 25+ millions on him i would only approve this deal if one off our players goes the other way. oh and i didnt want him first time.

Seriously if that your best arguement against me, than frankly you can .... off because you question my loyality to city with that comment.

PS. im swedish by nationality, but only lived there half my life. I DONT FEEL very swedish, if city were to meet Sweden in a final, i would still support city all the way.


Zlatan is just a very good footballer and if Tevez or Yaya were to leave, Zlatan would be the one to replace them IMO

The chances of us meeting Sweden in a final are nil mate. Zlatan a replacement for YaYa ? I'd go for Dani Alves :)

 

[zeven]

Zeven only wants Ibra because he's Swedish, let him carry on ranting with himself.

Thats is just so lame and stupid. Why on earth would i want that?

I want whats best for the team NOTHING ELS. There is NO other Swedish player i want here, and i dont want to spend 25+ millions on him i would only approve this deal if one off our players goes the other way. oh and i didnt want him first time.

Seriously if that your best arguement against me, than frankly you can .... off because you question my loyality to city with that comment.

PS. im swedish by nationality, but only lived there half my life. I DONT FEEL very swedish, if city were to meet Sweden in a final, i would still support city all the way.


Zlatan is just a very good footballer and if Tevez or Yaya were to leave, Zlatan would be the one to replace them IMO

The chances of us meeting Sweden in a final are nil mate. Zlatan a replacement for YaYa ? I'd go for Dani Alves :)

I know that will never happen, i just wanted to make my point absolutly clear :)

 

[conormcfc]

I'd snap their hand off for a straight swap with Tevez. Monster of a player, a technically-sound Dzeko.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

Mancini is an avid fan of Ibra so you never know.....

 

[LoveCity]

Back page of The S*n says we've made a move for him.