Claudio Bravo - 2016/2017 performances (continued)

[SWP's back]

Begins with P and ends with P.

That's not how you spell ref

 

[Dax777]

Begins with P and ends with P.

Pep. Sure. In general the buck stops with him. But I mean specifically on the field. Who were the players at fault. I've noticed an unusual reluctance to have that analytical discussion. I will give it time though.

But if you want my opinion. I think the initial fault for the first lay with Sane for lazily not joining in. Leaving Clichy backing off and Yaya coming over to help. That gave the Wing back the space to cross.

Once the cross went in though, I'm hard pressed to see how Kompany is not at fault
for leaving Navas degending 2.

On the 2nd, again I'd say Kompany was at fault again for keeping Sanchez onside by inexplicably dropping off as everyone was stepping up.

I have checked multpile thread and this hasn't been mentioned once. Strange coz I know 5 or 6 posters who specialize in pointing out players out of position. Especially when that defender is Otamendi.

Perhaps they are all still grieving, I'll wait for their analysis though.

 

[Dax777]

I'm not sure anyone was. I thought we were the better side for the majority of the game but again missed chances and a dodgy ref cost us.

The ref and poor finishing cost us the game. Who cost us the goals we conceded though. This are 2 different things though

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Yet again didn't save a proper shot on target. Dived the wrong way for the second and sat backwards for the first. One of his better games but failed to do what a keeper is really there for and rescue his team.

Why should your opinion of what a keeper "is really there for" take precedence over Pep's? Serious question.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

If anyone is seriously putting balme on him for either goal then they need to go get some fresh air and take some time to consider why they have such a pointless vendetta.

But Joe Hart is so pretty....

 

[bondsman]

Why should your opinion of what a keeper "is really there for" take precedence over Pep's? Serious question.

Goal keeper. Clue is in the name mate. Cech kept them in it twice. Save from yaya save from delph. Bravo hasn't kept us in a game all year.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Goal keeper. Clue is in the name mate. Cech kept them in it twice. Save from yaya save from delph. Bravo hasn't kept us in a game all year.

Either answer the question or don't respond. You want to try again?

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

3 shots on goal with two conceded.
Not blaming him for the result as our finishing was once again the main issue but it would be nice for him to have a really world class game like Hart did; considering how much was spent on him at his age

 

[bondsman]

Either answer the question or don't respond. You want to try again?

Okay if pep thinks a keeper doesn't need to stop shots he's wrong mate. Keepers have to do that to win games.

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Okay if pep thinks a keeper doesn't need to stop shots he's wrong mate. Keepers have to do that to win games.

That is a strawman argument. When has Pep or anyone for that matter said that keepers do not need to stop shots?

Do you want to try again?

 

[BlueDeadHead]

3 shots on goal with two conceded.
Not blaming him for the result as our finishing was once again the main issue but it would be nice for him to have a really world class game like Hart did; considering how much was spent on him at his age

What would you have preferred he did today? Limit your answers to what is physically possible.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

What would you have preferred he did today? Limit your answers to what is physically possible.

I think my complaints are more over the season than if today; I didn't expect him to stop either of the two shots at him that went in but he never really does anything spectacular

 

[BlueDeadHead]

I think my complaints are more over the season than if today; I didn't expect him to stop either of the two shots at him that went in but he never really does anything spectacular

You wrote "3 shots on goal with two conceded." You were suggesting he could have done more otherwise you would not have written that.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

You wrote "3 shots on goal with two conceded." You were suggesting he could have done more otherwise you would not have written that.

I said I didn't blame him for the defeat; don't you think it's odd how nearly every shot we concede is a goal though?

 

[BlueDeadHead]

I said I didn't blame him for the defeat; don't you think it's odd how nearly every shot we concede is a goal though?

Nope. If you look at at the shots on target this season a staggeringly high amount of them are unstoppable. Our defense has dropped the ball on a lot of occasions and our midfield and attack have simply failed to do the type of pressing and ball winning that is required from a Pep team. Thus we concede goals.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

"he couldn't have done anything about it, but fuck off Bravo" was the sentiment from many of the morons around me today who somehow pass as City fans.

Yes, people are thicker these days.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I think my complaints are more over the season than if today; I didn't expect him to stop either of the two shots at him that went in but he never really does anything spectacular

This.
He has been OKish since Pep brought him back and he couldn't really do anything about the Arsenal goals, that said, he never makes a top quality save.
His passing was diabolical on a number of occasions today too.
He needs to be moved on - he is a disaster.

 

[cucumberman]

He could have had more luck. Other than that, it's usual that those shots went in so he's not to blame.Just wished he had more luck sometimes.

 

[Bentheblue]

This.
He has been OKish since Pep brought him back and he couldn't really do anything about the Arsenal goals, that said, he never makes a top quality save.
His passing was diabolical on a number of occasions today too.
He needs to be moved on - he is a disaster.

Agree with most of this apart from a top class goalie might have saved the first with his feet like the doughnut thief often does.
I have to ask the question how can one of the worlds alleged best coaches continue to play a goalie who can not stop shots, especially as his passing ability appears to be know where near as good as Pep tells us it is. You are correct his in saying his passing was poor today. It's hard to maintain a belief in Pep when he persists with a totally out of form Bravo. Pep is appears to be a stubborn guy, who does not learn from his mistakes. It could be his undoing. Hope not but not impressed with his showing so far.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Agree with most of this apart from a top class goalie might have saved the first with his feet like the doughnut thief often does.
I have to ask the question how can one of the worlds alleged best coaches continue to play a goalie who can not stop shots, especially as his passing ability appears to be know where near as good as Pep tells us it is. You are correct his in saying his passing was poor today. It's hard to maintain a belief in Pep when he persists with a totally out of form Bravo. Pep is appears to be a stubborn guy, who does not learn from his mistakes. It could be his undoing. Hope not but not impressed with his showing so far.

Navas getting overloaded 3 to 1 on the back stick was the biggest problem there - but yes a good keeper would stop those 1 in 3 times.