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Media persecution of Raheem Sterling
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You should include a health warning with that advice.Sterling was born overseas. Check the Daily Fail comments boards on any article about him.
The Tribal theory wouldn't account for the different media outlets with alliegances to different clubs. It's more than that some of it because fans can be dicks and follow like sheep, but it's more than tribal.I don't think its racial I think its tribal, Liverpool have a lot to answer for.
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Sorry pal,i'm still not getting the reasoning that it has to be racism,other than he is black and some individuals want it to be such.1/ He fucked off Liverpool to the media's dismay, 2/ He fucked them off for a team owned by Arabs, 3/ He is now the most high profile black player in the country. A clickbait dream. 4/ The narrative has begun to move on with sections of the media sussing what it's all been about my A move on a further black footballer would generate a pattern a course of conduct more easily identifiable, leading at best to reduced newspaper circulation figure or at worse revenue suicide.
I think its much more likely an orchestrated character assassination by influential media types due to a combination of his teenage stupidity and his audacity to leave the Dippers.The fact his patchy England performances have allowed room for criticism has only aided their agenda.
I'm not saying youre wrong,i just don't buy it.
You need to read my earlier posts. I've been saying from the off that all factors or reasons are welcomed, including allaof those youve mentioned. My concern has been those who are quick to dismiss racism as a factor whilst providing no rationale for their preferred point of view.
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He left a media darling club - tribalThe Tribal theory wouldn't account for the different media outlets with alliegances to different clubs. It's more than that some of it because fans can be dicks and follow like sheep, but it's more than tribal.
Joined City - tribal
Black - racist
Born overseas - nationalist
More money than most - envy
Just was part of the team that's put the league to shame - nationalist/jingoistic
Idiotic football media and fans want him to do the same for the England squad in a different role - general stupidity
Concerted media effort from dipper mafia to build hatred against him -tribal
Keeping 'the biggest club in the world's' latest next something out of the squad (apparently) - tribal
Cue the daily 3 minute hate.
Like it or not, the media control the narrative and the easiest way to a story is to play on contrasts and differences.
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It's more than just racism, see my post above. It's a lot of different motives pushing a narrative that ends in prejudice which is very hard to overcome.You need to read my earlier posts. I've been saying from the off that all factors or reasons are welcomed, including allaof those youve mentioned. My concern has been those who are quick to dismiss racism as a factor whilst providing no rationale for their preferred point of view.
Your so spot on mate. What I like what you've done is detailing how there are a collection of factors here, which include racism. It's the racism factor that is always the most uncomfortable for people to reconcile. But you only have to take a look over the Atlantic in the land of the free to see it's alive and kicking, despite how uncomfortable that feels. Cracking post!He left a media darling club - tribal
Joined City - tribal
Black - racist
Born overseas - nationalist
More money than most - envy
Just was part of the team that's put the league to shame - nationalist/jingoistic
Idiotic football media and fans want him to do the same for the England squad in a different role - general stupidity
Concerted media effort from dipper mafia to build hatred against him -tribal
Keeping 'the biggest club in the world's' latest next something out of the squad (apparently) - tribal
Cue the daily 3 minute hate.
Like it or not, the media control the narrative and the easiest way to a story is to play on contrasts and differences.
I agree, I'm with you. I may have pissed some people off today and I do apologise if that's the case. Its not personal and imI'the first to say i can be a dick.But it's warmed me heart no end to see the discussion move from a reluctance to even consider that racism may be a factor, to people breaking the shit down and encompassing all of the factors that may be involved. I don't mind disagreeing, it's skirting around integral issues that at least should be part of the discussion, that gets my goat.It's more than just racism, see my post above. It's a lot of different motives pushing a narrative that ends in prejudice which is very hard to overcome.
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I agree, I'm with you. I may have pissed some people off today and I do apologise if that's the case. Its not personal and imI'the first to say i can be a dick.But it's warmed me heart no end to see the discussion move from a reluctance to even consider that racism may be a factor, to people breaking the shit down and encompassing all of the factors that may be involved. I don't mind disagreeing, it's skirting around integral issues that at least should be part of the discussion, that gets my goat.
It's not direct racism from the tabloids but they know which audience they are pandering to when they go after Raheem for allegedly being a feckless dad, showing off his money (and bling) and having a gun tattoo. You need to read between the lines. This was the original narrative and the criticism has kept on coming. It's not that every person who has slagged Raheem off is a racist but some of the press certainly comes from a bad place.
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There isn't a white sterling out there to compare to. None with his talent, experience and skillset at this time. But if your looking for comparisons in terms of how he is dealt with differently, try this. Pickford has a tattoo of a knife on his body, sterling one of a gun. Which one got grief, even though the rate of knife crime has risen exponentially across the country in recent years. I'm fine with you holding a view of reality which makes you feel better about yourself, but I can't say Ill agree to a point of view which offers no reasoning or logic.
Why are you looking for comparisons. You clearly said that if Sterling were white he would not be getting any grief from the press and you have convinced yourself of this. I would be interested to think how many others on here support your supposition.
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Stop at 1 and you wont be far off the truth1/ He fucked off Liverpool to the media's dismay, 2/ He fucked them off for a team owned by Arabs, 3/ He is now the most high profile black player in the country. A clickbait dream. 4/ The narrative has begun to move on with sections of the media sussing what it's all been about my A move on a further black footballer would generate a pattern a course of conduct more easily identifiable, leading at best to reduced newspaper circulation figure or at worse revenue suicide.
I think there’s just 3 types of person who spew the poison on him
1) Red scouse fans
2) Rags
3) Brain dead ****s who don’t understand football and can’t form an opinion for themselves beyond what the Sun or Mail tell them to think
1) Red scouse fans
2) Rags
3) Brain dead ****s who don’t understand football and can’t form an opinion for themselves beyond what the Sun or Mail tell them to think
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A Jamaican born English black player who gives it all for his country and gets nothing but grief as he doesn’t play exactly the same as he does for his club. Sterling is the new John Barnes without thankfully some idiot throwing bananas at him.
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You haven't heard me say that everyone who gives sterling is a racist, instead I'm arguing that it is one of many factorsdriving the agenda, and a significant one of that.It's not direct racism from the tabloids but they know which audience they are pandering to when they go after Raheem for allegedly being a feckless dad, showing off his money (and bling) and having a gun tattoo. You need to read between the lines. This was the original narrative and the criticism has kept on coming. It's not that every person who has slagged Raheem off is a racist but some of the press certainly comes from a bad place.
I didn't mention comparators you did stating that what I'm saying is that if sterling was white he would not getting the grief. That came from you not me. Get it right. I merely responded to your comments.Why are you looking for comparisons. You clearly said that if Sterling were white he would not be getting any grief from the press and you have convinced yourself of this. I would be interested to think how many others on here support your supposition.
Sorry, I know that to stop at 1 may help you to feel warm and cosy about the world as it is. But to do so wouldn't reflect reality and doesn't reflect how you achieve change.Stop at 1 and you wont be far off the truth
TrueA Jamaican born English black player who gives it all for his country and gets nothing but grief as he doesn’t play exactly the same as he does for his club. Sterling is the new John Barnes without thankfully some idiot throwing bananas at him.
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"Vindictive criticism" was a phrase used in a piece on him I'd read earlier today.
Sums it up perfectly.
Sums it up perfectly.
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I agree with this. Lots of people have different reasons for hating Raheem but elements of the press fan the flames.You haven't heard me say that everyone who gives sterling is a racist, instead I'm arguing that it is one of many factorsdriving the agenda, and a significant one of that.