Saddleworth2
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I do actually. :-)
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Andy Murray to retire
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always seemed like a miserable **** to me, never really took to him
meeesh
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I do actually. :-)
Well then you should know different,from wanting a yes vote for Scotland to leave us,to wanting any team that England are playing,whether tongue in cheek or not,these things stay forever,and people will not forget,so that is how it is as they say.
He won't be missed by me,and countless others
Here we go for those that need reminding
"I was only 19 or 20 at the time. I was still a kid, and I was getting things sent to my locker saying things like: 'I hope you lose every tennis match for the rest of your life'. That's at Wimbledon. Even people within the grounds at Wimbledon were saying that to me," Murray revealed.
The seriousness of the situation hit home after he overheard one tennis fan at Wimbledon describe him on the phone as "that Scottish wanker" as he walked past. "It's not nice, obviously, and I felt I hadn't done anything wrong." His comment, he said, was a response to teasing about Scotland's absence from the World Cup. What he called "unbelievable" early fan support evaporated, forcing him, he admitted, to have to "reconnect" with the British public.
The whole thing was ludicrous. The two others in the conversation, Tim Henman and Des Kelly, repeatedly insisted it was part of general teasing between two English people and a Scot, and nothing more than that. Kelly took to calling those who pretended to be outraged "hard of thinking" and defending Murray to the hilt over it.
Every single sodding time an Englishman and a Scot talks about such things you get the banter between them, to slag off Murray was ridiculous. He did nothing more than every one of us do in that kind of light hearted conversation - no one calls me anti-Scottish for it, I'd never call the other one anti-English. It's a family game of taking the piss. It seriously irritates me he still gets grief for it.
meeesh
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The whole thing was ludicrous. The two others in the conversation, Tim Henman and Des Kelly, repeatedly insisted it was part of general teasing between two English people and a Scot, and nothing more than that. Kelly took to calling those who pretended to be outraged "hard of thinking" and defending Murray to the hilt over it.
Every single sodding time an Englishman and a Scot talks about such things you get the banter between them, to slag off Murray was ridiculous. He did nothing more than every one of us do in that kind of light hearted conversation - no one calls me anti-Scottish for it, I'd never call the other one anti-English. It's a family game of taking the piss. It seriously irritates me he still gets grief for it.
I'm not suggesting he still gets grief for it till today,but like I said earlier,some will never forget,he's proud and that is fair enough,but how he could truly rely on "English Support" is beyond me,plus he was as miserable as they come for a sportsman as well,but to be labelled on here as being one of the greatest,nah I'm sorry,that don't cut it with me
I'm not suggesting he still gets grief for it till today,but like I said earlier,some will never forget,he's proud and that is fair enough,but how he could truly rely on "English Support" is beyond me,plus he was as miserable as they come for a sportsman as well,but to be labelled on here as being one of the greatest,nah I'm sorry,that don't cut it with me
Those who "will never forget" are thick twats.
Worth pointing out that the average retirement age of professional tennis players is 28.
It's an absolutely brutal sport physically, up there with things like gymnastics for the damage it does long term. Dzokovic, Nadal and Federer have all had massive injury lay offs before hitting 30.
They start ridiculously young, they play a very long season, made up of 3-5 hour games every other day.
It's an absolutely brutal sport physically, up there with things like gymnastics for the damage it does long term. Dzokovic, Nadal and Federer have all had massive injury lay offs before hitting 30.
They start ridiculously young, they play a very long season, made up of 3-5 hour games every other day.
meeesh
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Those who "will never forget" are thick twats.
Each to their own
jay_mcfc
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Absolute legend. Terrible news but I guess not a surprise considering the past 18 months. God knows where British tennis goes from here, back in the doldrums. The BBC are gonna be devastated.
Each to their own
The actual other two English people in the conversation at the time think so, for a start.
Murray's wife is English many of those he calls his best friends are English , he lives in England for much of his time. There is absolutely no way he is anti-English. When he was a teenager making his way in tennis he came over a s a bit awkward personally I think he has matured massively and comes over as a really thoughtful good guy though I guess everyone can have different opinions . I wish him all the best to the finest tennis player Britain has had in the modern era.
Absolute legend. Terrible news but I guess not a surprise considering the past 18 months. God knows where British tennis goes from here, back in the doldrums. The BBC are gonna be devastated.
Oh I don't know. It's in reasonable shape as a sport, far better than its been in decades. Murray, Henman and Rusedski (ironically enough, a Canadian has had a fantastic effect on British tennis) have inspired a fair few.
meeesh
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The actual other two English people in the conversation at the time think so, for a start.
Henman and who else ? Overend the journalist at the time you mean ?
Henman and who else ? Overend the journalist at the time you mean ?
As I stated above, the conversation was between Henman, Murray and Des Kelly. Kelly took to calling those expressing outrage "hard of thinking". Henman has repeatedly expressed his anger at those who took it out of context.
Obviously, given all were entirely content with some light hearted banter between them, they couldn't possibly have an informed view about the whole thing.
Murray's wife is English many of those he calls his best friends are English , he lives in England for much of his time. There is absolutely no way he is anti-English. When he was a teenager making his way in tennis he came over a s a bit awkward personally I think he has matured massively and comes over as a really thoughtful good guy though I guess everyone can have different opinions . I wish him all the best to the finest tennis player Britain has had in the modern era.
He was so much more relaxed in the media after winning wimbledon.
Being British #1 in Tennis has to be one of the weirdest positions in sport - you're a fringe interest for 11 months of the year, but come July sudden you have the weight of the entire country on your shoulders, and your shoulders alone, because everyone wants someone to support for the full 2 weeks and Murray had that since he was 17, not to mention the 76 year wait for a home champion.
meeesh
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As I stated above, the conversation was between Henman, Murray and Des Kelly. Kelly took to calling those expressing outrage "hard of thinking". Henman has repeatedly expressed his anger at those who took it out of context.
Obviously, given all were entirely content with some light hearted banter between them, they couldn't possibly have an informed view about the whole thing.
No I agree,Henman wouldn't have a clue what a football was unless it hit him in the face,and knocked the plums out of his mouth,and Kelly probably to this day wished that had never been said at the time,but you can carry on if you want to start a we love Andy campaign,but it looks like it's a bit late now
No I agree,Henman wouldn't have a clue what a football was unless it hit him in the face,and knocked the plums out of his mouth,and Kelly probably to this day wished that had never been said at the time,but you can carry on if you want to start a we love Andy campaign,but it looks like it's a bit late now
Oh right, so the people in the conversation are critical of those who take offence and you decide to attack them instead. Classy.
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By far the best British mens tennis player of the modern era. Would have won a lot more grand slams if his time at the top didn't coincide with that of three of the four best players ever. But three grand slams plus two olympic golds is not to be sniffed at.
No I agree,Henman wouldn't have a clue what a football was unless it hit him in the face,and knocked the plums out of his mouth,and Kelly probably to this day wished that had never been said at the time,but you can carry on if you want to start a we love Andy campaign,but it looks like it's a bit late now
Imagine hating someone forever because they made a joke about not supporting your football team when they were 19.
Even for you, it's remarkably petty.
meeesh
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Oh right, so the people in the conversation are critical of those who take offence and you decide to attack them instead. Classy.
Not a case of attacking the other two,as it was you who brought them up,but you think if you asked Henman 10 relatively easy questions on football he'd get more than 3 right ? Exactly my point.