Away tickets

[Chris Smithson]

I think it's great that these points were brought up but without putting a downer on your efforts all it seems to have done is to let the Club know that were are
aware they are complicit in the misuse of tickets. I will say again if a Corporate in a box takes 6 tickets and sells 4 to Viagogo will the Club suspend his tickets.
I don't think so because he will threaten not to renew his box.
All I think they will do it try to punish the little people.
I hope I'm wrong and thanks for your efforts on our behalf.

PS There is a rumour going round that if you book on TC for Shalke you will get a ticket without points.
Wonder if you had heard this /

More than a rumour. It's happening

 

[squirtyflower]

Doesn't appear to be much appetite to eradicate the complete randoms taking up huge chunks of away tickets, especially at the big games, the absolute priority should be to stop fans of liverpool/utd/chelsea etc sitting in the away end in their own ground, You can also add foreign tourists with zero loyalty points and zero affiliation to city also taking the tickets, but we know these are being paid for at premium prices, so won't be targeted. Frankly it stinks

The club says it’s rare, and if it happens we should report it, yawn

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

More than a rumour. It's happening

Simply not true.

We discussed it earlier and one of the things we talked about was how we could tighten up the criteria for people getting on the TC trip. Nothing is decided yet but we'd like to introduce some sort of loyalty criteria, be that points, priority for previous TC customers or something.

 

[blue_85]

We have had a discussion about agencies but it helps if they have evidence though so, if you're at a game and there's something clearly not right, like a group of "obvious tourists" (though I got told off for using that phrase) then let me have seat numbers and I'm happy to pass those on. Without those there's not much the club can do. We've already submitted evidence of even our authorised resellers breaking the rules as well as UK sellers like StubHub and Viagogo (who we don't believe are authorised) selling tickets, in contravention of the law.

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding this but what is this about authorised resellers? City are admitting they sell away tickets to 'authorised' agencies themselves but they want us to give them seat numbers of obvious tourists and then they can decide whether to punish depending on who it was sold the tickets to the agency who sold it to them?

Or are they saying the only issue is if these agency tickets are sold to people supporting the home team?

 

[squirtyflower]

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding this but what is this about authorised resellers? City are admitting they sell away tickets to 'authorised' agencies themselves but they want us to give them seat numbers of obvious tourists and then they can decide whether to punish depending on who it was sold the tickets to the agency who sold it to them?

Or are they saying the only issue is if these agency tickets are sold to people supporting the home team?

My reading of it is:
If you see a group of non-Caucasian gentlemen with odd accents and with out the requisite Samba footwear the report them to the club who will investigate whether they have

1. Bought their block of tickets through an ‘official reseller’ denying tickets to ticket points holders or
2. Bought their single ticket off a Manc in Sambas at Piccadilly Station.

If it’s 1 then the club won’t bother with an investigation as it was only 40 tickets, and who’d miss them but if it was 2 then the person will be hung, drawn and quartered as a points whore in City Square and their Seasoncard cut in half by a member of the black jacketed City’s elite security squad. His Sambas will be thrown in the adjoins canal

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Why does the club require official resellers?

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If you want tickets to watch Manchester City (assuming you are not a hardened Blue) then surely mancity.com would be your first port of call? If you buy a ticket then you should not be allowed to sell it on. For home games this is the case as you have to use the Ticket Exchange.

 

[Chris Smithson]

Simply not true.

We discussed it earlier and one of the things we talked about was how we could tighten up the criteria for people getting on the TC trip. Nothing is decided yet but we'd like to introduce some sort of loyalty criteria, be that points, priority for previous TC customers or something.

Fair enough. I retract my original statement

 

[Chappie]

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding this but what is this about authorised resellers? City are admitting they sell away tickets to 'authorised' agencies themselves but they want us to give them seat numbers of obvious tourists and then they can decide whether to punish depending on who it was sold the tickets to the agency who sold it to them?

Or are they saying the only issue is if these agency tickets are sold to people supporting the home team?

It is now common knowledge that City are giving 15% of away tickets to overseas/ corporate agencies to sell to anyone who can afford them irrespective of who they support
That is 450 tickets out of an allocation of 3000
When are people on here going to open their eyes to the real culprits, our beloved City and stop blaming the normal / loyal fans who may shift a few tickets on for each game to genuine city fans, but I guarantee you its nowhere near the 450 that City throw around like confetti

 

[squirtyflower]

It is now common knowledge that City are giving 15% of away tickets to overseas/ corporate agencies to sell to anyone who can afford them irrespective of who they support
That is 450 tickets out of an allocation of 3000
When are people on here going to open their eyes to the real culprits, our beloved City and stop blaming the normal / loyal fans who may shift a few tickets on for each game to genuine city fans, but I guarantee you its nowhere near the 450 that City throw around like confetti

To anyone who can afford it

 

[blue_85]

It is now common knowledge that City are giving 15% of away tickets to overseas/ corporate agencies to sell to anyone who can afford them irrespective of who they support
That is 450 tickets out of an allocation of 3000
When are people on here going to open their eyes to the real culprits, our beloved City and stop blaming the normal / loyal fans who may shift a few tickets on for each game to genuine city fans, but I guarantee you its nowhere near the 450 that City throw around like confetti

Which is why I don't get why
1. They are going through the time wasting charade of asking for seat numbers of 'culprits'
2. City reps are not challenging this practice (I don't care if this is 'the way of business', supply and demand or whatever - we are season ticket holders not shareholders and so that is where we should be coming at it from) There are plenty of people looking after city's business interests, they don't need supporters to do that. We make our own significant contribution to their revenue and have the right to represent our interests.

I'm not sure exactly how the reps are approaching these meetings and I appreciate it's not an easy task at all and probably time consuming as it is but I would think they need to meet together first before they go into each meeting (hopefully they are given an agenda beforehand) to discuss what the people they represent have raised and agree on a shared position as much as possible so they are ready to state their case to City. Just my opinion of course. As a season ticket holder.

 

[fathellensbellend]

It is now common knowledge that City are giving 15% of away tickets to overseas/ corporate agencies to sell to anyone who can afford them irrespective of who they support
That is 450 tickets out of an allocation of 3000
When are people on here going to open their eyes to the real culprits, our beloved City and stop blaming the normal / loyal fans who may shift a few tickets on for each game to genuine city fans, but I guarantee you its nowhere near the 450 that City throw around like confetti

Absolutely spot on, what also is being overlooked is the absolute fortune spent by fans over the best part of 2 decades to earn their place in the system, years of travelling, years of buying tickets at 50 quid plus for most of it, years of taking time off work unpaid, all sacrifices made to earn the right to get tickets, only to see totally undeserving people turn up at the table and jump the queue, just because they have a few quid, hands up who wants these 450 tickets allocated to City fans, not just wealthy tourists, ironically these tickets would go a long way to satisfying demand in many cases.

 

[Bill]

Why shouldn't the club make a killing off corporate ticket selling. Its straight forward business. They need to balance the books then make a profit, simples.
Surely nobody expected to watch the players we watch,the manager we have without something having to give. I say fair play that by and large they have left us,normal fans ,out of the expensive stuff. Our season tickets,compared to others,are damn cheap whilst we watch the best prem side that has ever taken to the field.
They need their money back, expecting anything else is pure delusion, if only to beat the corruption that is FFP.

 

[Mhh1960]

My reading of it is:
If you see a group of non-Caucasian gentlemen with odd accents and with out the requisite Samba footwear the report them to the club who will investigate whether they have

1. Bought their block of tickets through an ‘official reseller’ denying tickets to ticket points holders or
2. Bought their single ticket off a Manc in Sambas at Piccadilly Station.

If it’s 1 then the club won’t bother with an investigation as it was only 40 tickets, and who’d miss them but if it was 2 then the person will be hung, drawn and quartered as a points whore in City Square and their Seasoncard cut in half by a member of the black jacketed City’s elite security squad. His Sambas will be thrown in the adjoins canal

If this is voted in can I put my name down for a size 7 or 8 if made in Indonesia, it seems a shame to throw them away. If tickets can be passed on surely my favourite footwear can :)

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Why shouldn't the club make a killing off corporate ticket selling. Its straight forward business. They need to balance the books then make a profit, simples.
Surely nobody expected to watch the players we watch,the manager we have without something having to give. I say fair play that by and large they have left us,normal fans ,out of the expensive stuff. Our season tickets,compared to others,are damn cheap whilst we watch the best prem side that has ever taken to the field.
They need their money back, expecting anything else is pure delusion, if only to beat the corruption that is FFP.

Yes the reality is that box holders and Tunnel Club Members are going to get priority, however much most of us dislike this. However, the Club have gone further than what is business sense to help a new breed of corporates. For example, Joe’s Bar sold out in its first year of opening without any mention of away ticket priority. It was pointless dishing out away tickets in this area of the ground since it wasn’t needed to shift expesive season cards.

 

[Chappie]

Bill
Do you do the same in your buisness ?
Are you quite happy to fleece a customer for the same carpet because he lives in Didsbury as opposed to Ancoats.
No one has a gripe with City growing there corporate / overseas buisness, but it should be grown at home matches .
What possible benefit or profit is in it for City in giving away 450 tickets for an away fixture, when all proceeds go to the home club ?

 

[Bill]

Bill
Do you do the same in your buisness ?
Are you quite happy to fleece a customer for the same carpet because he lives in Didsbury as opposed to Ancoats.
No one has a gripe with City growing there corporate / overseas buisness, but it should be grown at home matches .
What possible benefit or profit is in it for City in giving away 450 tickets for an away fixture, when all proceeds go to the home club ?

Great idea mate but no.
Rags pay more of course if only for the travel :)
The away tickets aren't about the money for them its the enticment of them if someone buys hospitality at our place.
My mate bought Joe's purely to get away tickets. He had 6k points and immediately jumped to the front of the queue. So you see he pays 3 times what we pay and then the away ticket on top. He'll want his pound flesh.

 

[didsburyblu]

Yes the reality is that box holders and 93:20 holders are going to get priority, however much most of us dislike this. However, the Club have gone further than what is business sense to help a new breed of corporates. For example, Joe’s Bar sold out in its first year of opening without any mention of away ticket priority. It was pointless dishing out away tickets in this area of the ground since it wasn’t needed to shift expesive season cards.

Unless I'm misreading this what advantage are you talking about for 93.20 holders.
I'm one and take my place in the points queue and wait for my points window to arrive just like every other season ticket holder?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding this but what is this about authorised resellers? City are admitting they sell away tickets to 'authorised' agencies themselves but they want us to give them seat numbers of obvious tourists and then they can decide whether to punish depending on who it was sold the tickets to the agency who sold it to them?

Or are they saying the only issue is if these agency tickets are sold to people supporting the home team?

The authorised resellers are supposed sell home hospitality packages only. The problem is that some appear to be selling general admission tickets and virtually all are charging well over the odds for the hospitality packages, both of which aren't supposed to happen.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

It is now common knowledge that City are giving 15% of away tickets to overseas/ corporate agencies to sell to anyone who can afford them irrespective of who they support
That is 450 tickets out of an allocation of 3000
When are people on here going to open their eyes to the real culprits, our beloved City and stop blaming the normal / loyal fans who may shift a few tickets on for each game to genuine city fans, but I guarantee you its nowhere near the 450 that City throw around like confetti

What a load of bollocks. City have detailed the numbers of tickets they give out to each group for typical away games. If it's so "well-known" then prove it to me and I'll tackle the club. But people coming out with this stuff never manage to prove it.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

As I've stated before, I've paid upwards of £300 for tickets at Liverpool 2014, United 2013, Everton 2014 as well as numerous others.

I will do this again if required

If I was to report the seat numbers PB, would my tickets become invalid or would you suggest I only report it after the match?

Genuine question as I don't want to spend the money and then find my ticket doesn't work on the gate

If you've paid over the odds for tickets then give me the details after the game. I'm not going to do anything that might stop you watching the game and you can remain anonymous.