Etihad Campus, Stadium and Collar Site Development Thread

I think work on it will begin this time next year meaning it will be ready for 2021.

However, they might wait for the whole safe standing thing to be sorted first as it sounds like it will play a big part in the new seating arrangements.
 
Understandable that the club want to wait I guess, although the seats are sold there are always empty seats at most games and they want bums on them! Wasn’t the south stand around £80m to do?!
 
I reckon the problem the club have with expanding the North Stand is the fact that when they did the South Stand thousands of existing seasoncard holders like me relocated to it from more expensive parts of the stadium. The same will happen if they do the North Stand so they have to decide if they have thousands wanting to get hold of £700 plus seasoncards. I suspect the answer is they don’t currently.
 
I reckon the problem the club have with expanding the North Stand is the fact that when they did the South Stand thousands of existing seasoncard holders like me relocated to it from more expensive parts of the stadium. The same will happen if they do the North Stand so they have to decide if they have thousands wanting to get hold of £700 plus seasoncards. I suspect the answer is they don’t currently.
I don't think there is a problem , think it's quite imminent. The answer to the £700 problem is to make it available to new s/c s before relocations.
 
I reckon the problem the club have with expanding the North Stand is the fact that when they did the South Stand thousands of existing seasoncard holders like me relocated to it from more expensive parts of the stadium. The same will happen if they do the North Stand so they have to decide if they have thousands wanting to get hold of £700 plus seasoncards. I suspect the answer is they don’t currently.

I don't think there is a problem , think it's quite imminent. The answer to the £700 problem is to make it available to new s/c s before relocations.

And how is that fair to existing s/c holders? Especially as a precedent has been set when SS3 opened?
 
I reckon the problem the club have with expanding the North Stand is the fact that when they did the South Stand thousands of existing seasoncard holders like me relocated to it from more expensive parts of the stadium. The same will happen if they do the North Stand so they have to decide if they have thousands wanting to get hold of £700 plus seasoncards. I suspect the answer is they don’t currently.

Agreed, i suspect NS L3 will be filled with existing SC holders who currently pay £700+ in the lower tiers. I for one would be tempted to move up for a decent view at half the price. It would be a win/win as they could sell the lower tiers at 60/70 a pop each home game for a decent view. Daytrippers wouldnt like to be in the skies. If they make this stand all standing and a singing section then i would like see it filled with the same faces and passionate characters.
 
That was because CB and East stand seats were being forced to move for corporate so were given first dibs. That wouldn't apply this time.

Partly true. Anyone being moved from CB & East Stands for new corporate areas were given first dibs as they had, from memory, a two day window to choose their seats. It then went to existing s/c holders in all parts of the stadium (I moved from ES3) and after that it went to people on the waiting list.
 
Agreed, i suspect NS L3 will be filled with existing SC holders who currently pay £700+ in the lower tiers. I for one would be tempted to move up for a decent view at half the price. It would be a win/win as they could sell the lower tiers at 60/70 a pop each home game for a decent view. Daytrippers wouldnt like to be in the skies. If they make this stand all standing and a singing section then i would like see it filled with the same faces and passionate characters.

The problem with that is if the club are struggling to sell out currently for lesser games as Worsley posted then having several thousand more match day tickets to shift at £60-70 a go for the likes of Bournemouth etc is going to be tough. The answer to it is to freeze s/c prices for the foreseeable and also to reduce match day prices. From a return on investment point of view this makes no sense.
 
I wouldn't be fussed if the expansion never happened.

Would much rather improve the existing facilities and exterior to make the Etihad more iconic, coupled with a proper transport infrastructure.

I had four season-tickets go begging for Schalke last week because some family just didn't want to make the trek across the city in rush hour by car, having long given up the Metro.

Rather than bragging rights or keeping up with much newer stadia, a much-lesser spend would address plenty of current issues.

It is also worth noting that the planned developments around the ground will only enhance the stadium.

Standing law changes would also enable to drive up capacity for certain competitions.

The arguments have been made before about turning people away and losing out on revenue, but I don't see it like that anymore.

Why spend £80m when you can spend £25m and have 55k to the brim every week? It would take years to get that money back per seat.

Juventus seem to do alright.
 
The problem with that is if the club are struggling to sell out currently for lesser games as Worsley posted then having several thousand more match day tickets to shift at £60-70 a go for the likes of Bournemouth etc is going to be tough. The answer to it is to freeze s/c prices for the foreseeable and also to reduce match day prices. From a return on investment point of view this makes no sense.

Yeah agreed, not to get off topic on the development of the stadium but it would be interesting to see the data on inquiries and demand for tickets against current supply. Would we be able to comfortable fill 6k more tickets each home game or be left 2-3k short for the majority of home games. I think we are at a happy medium right now that most ST holders are able push on tickets easily enough and the market hasnt been flooded. Tickets are not really selling for double their value or half their price and the club will need to pick their movement to flip the market and add 6k seats. Personally, i come from a small community and are well known long standing city fans. Now, more and more people are saying i would love a ticket for my kids. Social media tracking is a good marker and im sure they are tracing clicks on the website for games.
 
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall when Khaldoon reports back to Sheikh Mansour after attending the CL away leg @Spurs
new stadium.
 
I wouldn't be fussed if the expansion never happened.

Would much rather improve the existing facilities and exterior to make the Etihad more iconic, coupled with a proper transport infrastructure.

I had four season-tickets go begging for Schalke last week because some family just didn't want to make the trek across the city in rush hour by car, having long given up the Metro.

Rather than bragging rights or keeping up with much newer stadia, a much-lesser spend would address plenty of current issues.

It is also worth noting that the planned developments around the ground will only enhance the stadium.

Standing law changes would also enable to drive up capacity for certain competitions.

The arguments have been made before about turning people away and losing out on revenue, but I don't see it like that anymore.

Why spend £80m when you can spend £25m and have 55k to the brim every week? It would take years to get that money back per seat.

Juventus seem to do alright.
Yeah Juventus downsized from a 70k stadium to a 45k stadium.

The thing is with them, the fans had input on the design and they opted for a big bottom tier because that’s how you create a good atmosphere. Our Level 1 is small and that’s the number one reason why we struggle sometimes with atmosphere, there’s just not enough people together on Level 1 in a deep enough stand going back a good 100 rows to get a good noise going often enough.
 
Agreed, i suspect NS L3 will be filled with existing SC holders who currently pay £700+ in the lower tiers. I for one would be tempted to move up for a decent view at half the price. It would be a win/win as they could sell the lower tiers at 60/70 a pop each home game for a decent view. Daytrippers wouldnt like to be in the skies. If they make this stand all standing and a singing section then i would like see it filled with the same faces and passionate characters.

So your alright with most of the lower tier being filled with tourists and day trippers. Basically getting rid of the all the actual fans and moving them further away from the action ? Why in earth would you want that?

Some of the best views and moments happen in the lower tiers. Would be strange aswell having the lower tiers - the ones most visible on tv, full of glory hunters.
 
I think we are all much in agreement that the family stand needs to be moved somewhere(don’t know where to) to anywhere, It’s a constant source of ridicule and we need to close that. It does look bad on tv screens when it isn’t full.
 
We’re now getting over 50K for CL matches. A few season’s back we weren’t. We get over 50K for FA Cup matches due to good ticket prices. As long as we’re challenging for the title and winning trophies, we’ll keep on getting over 50K for most matches.

What the club need to do is to expand the stadium, and make the additional season tickets more affordable. They also need to offer them to new City fans first, including those on the waiting list. There’s absolutely no point in offering them to current season ticket holders who want a cheaper seat and season ticket first. By doing that the club will be left with 1000’s of expensive season tickets new City fans don’t want or can’t afford. *The trick is to get new City fans to fill the additional seats, not to get current fans to buy cheaper season tickets*. That may irk some on here, but we need 6000 additional new City fans to make the stadium expansion viable.
 

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