Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Len Rum said:
Ah but they'll still have their 'istree ( excluding 1985 of course).
And not to forget the spirit of Shankly will live on.
Plus of course their religious belief that like other fallen empires they and Manchester United will always be the greatest football teams EVER.
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A fantasy laced with lies, constructed to conceal reality, or at least make reality bearable. For dippers their "glorious" never give up failures in the present can always be celebrated! Even eulogised, because they're always viewed through the prism of their glorious history! At least for a while they can. Over time history can condemn you, bury you under its weight and its lies, nostalgia becomes a fetish and then a cult.

But the money men see things differently and they don't like what they see at City.

You and I both know this FFP bullshit, glorious "istree" nostalgia and Arab money racist bile is designed to hide one simple fact, when clubs go cap in hand to their owners , there's only one owner who's not creaming off the top, only one owner not looking for the shareholders cut, only one owner not driven by profit maximisation or debt servicing over on field performance.

No prizes for guessing who that owner is.
 
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Ric said:
Doesn’t look likely, although they will argue that their squad is in pretty decent shape after last season. Presumably they’re hoping that Oxlade-Chamberlain will get back to his best and that Brewster can step up to replace Sturridge as a squad player. They’ll definitely be our main challengers again, but there is a risk in treading water in this league.
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It'll take some doing to prevent a case of 'after the lord mayor's show', and let's not forget that apart from VVD all their main players are going to be late back due to international comps. They had a lot of draws last season and some teams looked to be working out how to play them; the league could very easily have ended as something of a jog to a less spectacular second place. The one thing they need is a fresh face or two to keep everybody up for it imo.

7evens said:
It just seems so odd for them to have a season brimming with as much potential as their 18/19 campaign and not want to use it as a platform for more. They've not gone after Fekir again which I thought they would, they've not tried to activate any release clauses or buy any new midfielders, it all seems like a huge risk. The only player I've seen them linked with is Asensio. Their squad is looking quite thin in some areas, especially at full-back. If TAA or Robertson get injured they're pretty screwed as of right now.
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Wasn't it TAA who had a bad first half season? One of them did. And one was injured for a while. It could be argued that therefore they don't need good backups because they were fine, but I'd say they got away with it - ask that question of fate a second time and they aren't likely to fare so well.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Ah yes, that other misty eyed Dipper fantasy, 'The spirit of 'Shankly,' the same bloke who got told to piss off from
the training ground for mithering the staff and players, then having his life story banned from Dipper FC for 25
years. If these candle wavers had any sort of self awareness they'd be dangerous.
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"If you are second, you are nothing."
 
keith's curle said:
It'll take some doing to prevent a case of 'after the lord mayor's show', and let's not forget that apart from VVD all their main players are going to be late back due to international comps. They had a lot of draws last season and some teams looked to be working out how to play them; the league could very easily have ended as something of a jog to a less spectacular second place. The one thing they need is a fresh face or two to keep everybody up for it imo.



Wasn't it TAA who had a bad first half season? One of them did. And one was injured for a while. It could be argued that therefore they don't need good backups because they were fine, but I'd say they got away with it - ask that question of fate a second time and they aren't likely to fare so well.
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I think with Alexander-Arnold, Gomez and Milner they have decent cover at right-back. Robertson getting injured for any length of time would hurt them though.
 
Ric said:
I think with Alexander-Arnold, Gomez and Milner they have decent cover at right-back. Robertson getting injured for any length of time would hurt them though.
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Van Dijk is their star man, if he gets injured they will be vulnerable
 
I can't see them going into the transfer market for any significant player in the window . The yanks splashed the cash last summer and I can't see them going big again this window ,in reality they should but they won't, and that will be their mistake . I can't see that team being able to go as hard as they did last season they will get injuries this season . The problem we might have is if the prem is as bent as I think it is and it's handed to them next season, they won't need to go into the transfer market .
 
Wonder how the 700 page plus City appreciation thread is getting along on RAWK. The one with all them videos of Henderson firing six roman candles out of his arse.
 
7evens said:
It just seems so odd for them to have a season brimming with as much potential as their 18/19 campaign and not want to use it as a platform for more. They've not gone after Fekir again which I thought they would, they've not tried to activate any release clauses or buy any new midfielders, it all seems like a huge risk. The only player I've seen them linked with is Asensio. Their squad is looking quite thin in some areas, especially at full-back. If TAA or Robertson get injured they're pretty screwed as of right now.
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This is the biggest thing to me. They can look back on a huge point tally and a CL win and be happy with that, but there seems to be no self awareness to the fact that other than Oxlade-Chamberlain and Gomez they didn't really suffer from many injuries. If they go into next year with relatively no new faces then they are banking on having the same luck with injuries. For the front three, and as you said fullbacks, they'd have no shot at the title if they sustained multiple injuries.

Blue Hefner said:
The kitty might be empty. Also, they are comfortably the 2nd best team in the league so a Top2 finish is all but guaranteed so what would be the point of doing another £150mil with no guarantee of improvement?
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If they do end up not signing anyone and Spurs bring in a couple more players (and hold onto Eriksen and/or Alderweireld), I could absolutely see Spurs finishing second barring they stay relatively fit. I don't see Spurs having as deep of a CL run next year and on paper they should be a better, more consistent side in the league.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
That's why, even though it's apparently bad form to say it, I will always prioritise the PL over the CL.
If this competition had any validity, it wouldn't be including teams that came 4th in their league, and haven't won
a carrot for Donkey's years, knock out comps are fine, but anything calling itself 'Champions League' needs to comprise
of teams that are actually champions, not some flukey chancers winning a few one offs.
Chelsea won the fucking thing after finishing 6th FFS, it's hyped to high heaven, but anyone knows, who possesses
any sort of Objectivity, that the winners of it are not necessarily the best in Europe.
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I asked a dipper acquaintance of mine if we could call ourselves the best team in England because we won the FA cup.
‘Not the same’ he said ... ‘no’ I agreed ‘ you can’t lose 4 games in the FA cup and still win it’.
 
A football fan who pushed a man into a fountain in Barcelona has been banned from attending matches for three years.

Anthony Mullen, 57, had "targeted and humiliated" the Spanish man before Liverpool's Champions League semi-final in May, police said.

He was also found to have pulled down the trousers of a steward near Anfield stadium the following week.

Mullen, of Livingstone Drive North, Aigburth, was handed the banning order at South Sefton Magistrates Court.

His actions in the Placa Reial area of the Catalan capital were captured in videos posted on social media, while others were seen laughing and taunting.

'Innocent men humiliated'
At the time, Liverpool FC said such behaviour was "clearly totally unacceptable and will not be tolerated".

Mullen also pulled down the trousers of a steward when Liverpool played Wolverhampton Wanderers in a home match later the same month.

Supt Paul White, of Merseyside Police, described the incidents as "shocking" and said "two innocent men" had been "targeted and humiliated" by Mullen.

He thanked fans for their help in identifying Mullen and said the force did not want the "mindless acts of a few" to reflect on the football club and city.

The ban also prevents Mullen from being within two miles of Anfield before and after matches, and from travelling to cities when Liverpool play away fixtures.



Hahahaha, had to underline that part, how many arrests so far regarding the criminal behaviour and damage to our team coach?
 
Ancient Citizen said:
That's why, even though it's apparently bad form to say it, I will always prioritise the PL over the CL.
If this competition had any validity, it wouldn't be including teams that came 4th in their league, and haven't won
a carrot for Donkey's years, knock out comps are fine, but anything calling itself 'Champions League' needs to comprise
of teams that are actually champions, not some flukey chancers winning a few one offs.
Chelsea won the fucking thing after finishing 6th FFS, it's hyped to high heaven, but anyone knows, who possesses
any sort of Objectivity, that the winners of it are not necessarily the best in Europe.
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By that logic, unless they retained their domestic title the year they won the European Cup, neither were the winners under the old format.
 
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