The NHS has been unfit for purpose for decades now, and the reason is to be seen on this thread, it's a political football and a noose around any governments neck.
Of course I do. I am not on Mars.You really don’t see the reality of austerity, do you? And who do you believe should be sacked?
"Tax and spend, tax and spend!".The taxes of the 8 million new people? or are they all on benefits? Don't talk shit the NHS is being ran into the ground on purpose to deny it is just wilful ignorance.
Not true, my mum god bless her soul was incredibly well looked after by the NHS during the late 90s and early 2000s , her waiting times for operations were short and she received top care.
"Tax and spend, tax and spend!".
People aren't earning enough to cover the rise in taxes for those additional 8m people, not enough to cover the additional costs of the care required. How do we get around the proposed nationalisation of public services also taking tax money away from the underfunded NHS? Where is all this extra money meant to be coming from, because the taxpayers don't have it.
Find it, if NHS funding isn't top of the piority list , it should be.And where is that extra funding coming from?
Of course it's true, I am happy you had your mum looked after but that's just anecdotal evidence not reflective of every case. People look through the tinted spectacles of their rosette of choice when it comes to the NHS.
You call it a tax I call it investing in my society and its people. I ain't no economist and neither are you so stop chatting maccer like you know the score.
You are telling me Great Britain cannot provide a well run NHS but can afford to spunk millions on a railway line or trident.
People don't have the money to meet monthly living costs and your solution is to just "tax the people more".You call it a tax I call it investing in my society and its people. I ain't no economist and neither are you so stop chatting maccer like you know the score.
You are telling me Great Britain cannot provide a well run NHS but can afford to spunk millions on a railway line or trident.
So what is then, if the NHS is failing from underfunding, what replaces it and who pays for it ?People don't have the money to meet monthly living costs and your solution is to just "tax the people more".
I'm not chatting like "I know the score", i'm just like you, a citizen with an opinion and in my opinion, taxing the public MORE to pay for a service which already receives the highest percentage of taxpayers money, is no longer a viable option.
You are aware that there are funds set aside for things like HS2 and Trident? You're talking thousands of jobs, contracts being torn up, people out of work. And i'm coming from the opinion that HS2 is an abysmal waste of funds. The reality is those projects already have millions invested, in people.
"Tax the 8m more people to fund the rise in population" is not a viable option, IMHO.
From where?Find it, if NHS funding isn't top of the piority list , it should be.
I don't have a rosette, ain't a die hard labour fan or a tory. I'd say me and my family have a hell of a lot of experience with the NHS in and around Manchester. It has got alot worse.
Wait till Boomers like you are stuck in badly run care homes will be funny as fuck.
That's what a lot of us are asking Labour and the Conservatives and we're getting no viable answers.So what is then, if the NHS is failing from underfunding, what replaces it and who pays for it ?
15 years ago the population was 60m. Now it's almost 68m. Thems a lot o' potential patients.
All population increase is inevitable; our issue seems to be our population is growing faster than our infrastructure can keep up, and it's putting a major strain on local and now national services.agreed. Population increase is a major problem.
Not much of a caring attitude if you think it'll be "funny as fuck" that people find themselves in a badly run care home.I don't have a rosette, ain't a die hard labour fan or a tory. I'd say me and my family have a hell of a lot of experience with the NHS in and around Manchester. It has got alot worse.
Wait till Boomers like you are stuck in badly run care homes will be funny as fuck.
Maybe those folks with an extra BMW on the driveway could cough up a bit more.That's what a lot of us are asking Labour and the Conservatives and we're getting no viable answers.
The only realistic way in that scenario is to allow outside investment, which is unpopular amongst socialists, and would need to be assured to any investors that the NHS remains free to the point of use. Something which outside investors would not be happy about and would want some "ownership" of the service, which is again an unpopular notion.
So we're back to just raising taxes, get the impoverished public to pay even more for a badly run, poorly managed and financially wasteful service.