General Election - December 12th, 2019

[urban genie]

I will wait for someone to tell me why this is a bad idea

 

[Coatigan]

Ha, no it’s more a recurring theme. That press conference in front of police cadets, his visits to the flooding areas etc. Ed Miliband practically lost an election on his perceived weirdness, but Johnson is on another level.

Ed Miliband had the media constantly focusing on his 'weirdness' and looks, all the time. Boris, he's charismatic, the BBC said so.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Fucking state of this again.

Dangerous cunts you lot politically. Fucking nut jobs.

How the fuck you get that as a response to his post only you and those on here of like mind will know?

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I will wait for someone to tell me why this is a bad idea

And by the Conservatives own report will work out £12 billion cheaper to implement than the Governments current plan of multiple vendors .......



That means that the average Joe will pay £12 billion MORE THAN THEY NEED TO out of their own pockets to get Broadband installed throughout the UK.........................Fiscal Prudence my arse.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Interesting how you dodged my earlier response.

Or didn't read it perhaps? What are you referring to?

 

[blueinsa]

It gets worse....or better....or worse.

You have issues.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

My BT engineer is due between 8am and 1pm today to fix my broadband, which has been out of action for three weeks now. No tv during that time except via my phone.

They sent someone a couple of weeks ago, but he was there to fix the line for reasons which remain a mystery, which was working fine. I could have told him that. Tried not to be too pissed off with him, as it wasn’t his fault.

They’ve tried to fix it twice, down the line, to no avail. Once via a call centre in the sub-continent and once from Plymouth. On both occasions they promised to sort it. They didn’t.

Booked the day out of work twice, which has cost me a few quit on one occasion.

Can’t see a state run enterprise ever matching these service levels tbh. Nationalised industries are so inefficient

 

[blueinsa]

And by the Conservatives own report will work out £12 billion cheaper to implement than the Governments current plan of multiple vendors .......



That means that the average Joe will pay £12 billion MORE THAN THEY NEED TO out of their own pockets to get Broadband installed throughout the UK.........................Fiscal Prudence my arse.

Experts have said £40 Billion already and thats before a single home is hooked up and we all know how costs escalate.

Facebook, Google and Amazon to pay for it? Has anyone asked them or told them yet and what was their answer I mean if brexit has companies running for the doors im going to guess a bill of this size would?

What happens to all the other broadband providers? Jobs within them?

"Roll up...roll up...free shit...get your free shit"

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Who has said your evil lol.

Btw £1.10 in every £100 on benefits spent is estimated to be lost in fraud, roughly 1.9 billion. In 2015/16.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/election-2017-39980793

Our total expenditure in 2016 was £772 billion

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...ile/508193/HMT_Budget_2016_Web_Accessible.pdf

Compared to the £18 billion in unclaimed benefits (Citizens Advice Bureau figures )

The £30 billion in tax avoided , evaded or uncollected (HMRC figures )

or if you want to take the Tax Justice Network and PWC Figure this is closer to £120 billion


However we have more staff in HMRC focusing on catching benefit fraudsters than we do on tax evaders

 

[Ban-jani]

It was first used by abolitionists in the 1860's it isn't new.

Again this is missing the point.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

My BT engineer is due between 8am and 1pm today to fix my broadband, which has been out of action for three weeks now. No tv during that time except via my phone.

They sent someone a couple of weeks ago, but he was there to fix the line for reasons which remain a mystery, which was working fine. I could have told him that. Tried not to be too pissed off with him, as it wasn’t his fault.

They’ve tried to fix it twice, down the line, to no avail. Once via a call centre in the sub-continent and once from Plymouth. On both occasions they promised to sort it. They didn’t.

Booked the day out of work twice, which has cost me a few quit on one occasion.

Can’t see a state run enterprise ever matching these service levels tbh. Nationalised industries are so inefficient

Had a similar situation recently. The engineer told me that the first response from BT is to send a telephone engineer and not a broadband bod.
You have to emphasise that it's a broadband fault when you call it in. Told him that's what I'd done but he said I had to really emphasise it. I mean really, really emphasise the fact, next time.
Interesting times.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Had a similar situation recently. The engineer told me that the first response from BT is to send a telephone engineer and not a broadband bod.
You have to emphasise that it's a broadband fault when you call it in. Told him that's what I'd done but he said I had to really emphasise it. I mean really, really emphasise the fact, next time.
Interesting times.

I did. At the risk of sounding slightly immodest, I think it’s fair to say I’m generally regarded as quite good at getting my message across. Perhaps on this occasion I fell short.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

I did. At the risk of sounding slightly immodest, I think it’s fair to say I’m generally regarded as quite good at getting my message across. Perhaps on this occasion I fell short.

As did I, it would appear.
It's the call centre default action required response, it seems.
Phone dept and broadband dept are two completely different set ups, apparently.

 

[snorky]

I did. At the risk of sounding slightly immodest, I think it’s fair to say I’m generally regarded as quite good at getting my message across. Perhaps on this occasion I fell short.

Sorry GDM, I didn't understand a word of that.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

As did I, it would appear.
It's the call centre default action required response, it seems
Phone dep and broadband dep are two completely different set ups, apparently.

God help us all if it’s nationalised. Can’t see them matching these service levels in a month of Sundays!

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

God help us all if it’s nationalised. Can’t see them matching these service levels in a month of Sundays!

It would be the broadband arm they'd have to nationalise and they don't work Sundays.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Compared to the £18 billion in unclaimed benefits (Citizens Advice Bureau figures )

The £30 billion in tax avoided , evaded or uncollected (HMRC figures )

or if you want to take the Tax Justice Network and PWC Figure this is closer to £120 billion


However we have more staff in HMRC focusing on catching benefit fraudsters than we do on tax evaders

Nailed it. Most people don't realise how much is avoided in tax but buy into the right wing press how it's poor people's fault and immigrants fault.

 

[Len Rum]

God help us all if it’s nationalised. Can’t see them matching these service levels in a month of Sundays!

You're so 1970s!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You're so 1970s!

I’m presently living through an autumn of discontent!

 

[Len Rum]

Great bold innovative move from labour regarding free British broadband.
Tories on the back foot trying to rubbish it.
Wot have they got to offer - tax cuts to people who don't need it and hope that some of the wealth trickles down (NOT).