General Election - December 12th, 2019

[M18CTID]

Oh come on Chippy have a word with yourself I have heard countless political experts (that I can quote you if you want) who have said No Deal wasn't a threat and never has been for quite some time. It was down to luck that judgement on UK's part the deal still sucks.

Go and read yellow hammer and tell me No Deal isn't a big deal to us compared to 27 other countries just think about it logically not politically?

You reckon No Deal isn't a big deal for Ireland?

 

[George Hannah]

With all due respect George, you’re talking absolute shite. As I say, you can find a comprehensive list of their policies, as you can every other party apart from a Farage’s, on their websites. Below is 140 papers outlining each individual policy on everything that needs to be covered in British politics. https://www.libdems.org.uk/policy_papers

In good faith and rising above the copraphiliac abuse I followed your link preparing myself to re-examine their detailed proposals objectively in the light of your repeated recommdations
only to find
https://www.libdems.org.uk/policy_paper
Sorry, just like a parliamentary vote won by Boris Johnson, this page doesn't exist

Image: Chatham House
Boris Johnson is unfit for office. Agree? Add your name ➜

I agree

 

[Chippy_boy]

Oh come on Chippy have a word with yourself I have heard countless political experts (that I can quote you if you want) who have said No Deal wasn't a threat and never has been for quite some time. It was down to luck that judgement on UK's part the deal still sucks.

I think there's no chance of no deal and never was. But I think Johnson used the fixed October 31st date and the rhetoric of us leaving come what may, to great advantage. He looked for all intents and purposes like he meant it. He looked like a man on a mission who was going to get us out by hook or by crook and the EU blinked first. He played a blinder, despite your side trying to fuck him over.

Which is why I find it so depressing that you lot cannot recognise that was exactly how and why Johnson played it as he did, and instead choose to throw silly and childish abuse at him about his not "dying in a ditch" for example. Not only is doing so wholly unreasonable since it was your side who stopped him, it's laughable that you cannot recognise why he was saying what he did. If you play poker and you bluff, you'd better look like you mean it. So that's what he did.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

how many men do you know who could be married for 25 years have 4 kids whilst having multiple affairs which produced 2 more children.

I could name a couple.
Mind you they're proper naughty fuckers.

 

[Chippy_boy]

It was more in reference to what Len said to you ages ago - that even though you voted Remain, you brought Brexit on yourself by voting Conservative in the first place. Coming from someone who was one of the biggest Leavers on here in the run-up to the referendum, I thought he was being a bit rich with that!

He's been on my ignore list for years, so hadn't seen his comments. I've not long taken him off it, but will probably put him back on.

 

[jay_mcfc]

The Lib Dems can hardly say to people "Vote Labour" can they! It's up to Remainers to decide whether they can hold their noses and vote for the Marxist. I imagine for many the stench is too strong.

Why not? If it gets them what the majority of their voters want. The Bxp are doing it for the Cons and Greens are doing it for Labour.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Why not? If it gets them what the majority of their voters want. The Bxp are doing it for the Cons and Greens are doing it for Labour.

The BXP are saying "Vote Conservative"? I don't think so.

Your suggestion that the Lib Dems should campaign "Vote Labour" is entirely unrealistic, ludicrous in fact. Even more so when you consider that Swinson (rightly) regards Corbyn as unfit for office.

 

[jay_mcfc]

The BXP are saying "Vote Conservative"? I don't think so.

Your suggestion that the Lib Dems should campaign "Vote Labour" is entirely unrealistic, ludicrous in fact. Even more so when you consider that Swinson (rightly) regards Corbyn as unfit for office.

You miss the bit where she also says that about your man.

I'm not saying they should campaign for Labour. But if they want to stop a Boris Brexit as they've promised their millions of voters they should have a pact with Labour.

And it's a 2-way street. Labour could pull out of St Ives, St Albans, Chelmsford, Cheadle, Lewes, North Devon etc.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

It removed the all uk backstop. Which was the show-stopper. You can pontificate and speculate all you like about whether Boris' no deal threat worked or whether it was simply "coincidence". The fact is the EU's position changed markedly, having previously been adamant they would not touch the WA in any way, they did.

And moreover, the "cake or eat it" question stands. You cannot argue that "no deal" is a hollow threat, and at the same time argue that it's a real threat which must be taken off the table.

If it's a real possibility, then it is a useful negotiating tool. And if it isn't a real possibility, then Corbyn was disingenuous with his fucking about obstructing progress on Brexit. I am 100% certain Corbyn's motivations had fuck all to do with trying to ensure there is no "no deal" and everything to do with inflicting political damage on his opponent. As per the last 3 years.

The choice by the Tories to propose the idea floated by Sinn Fein that Northern Ireland remains in the Customs Union and retains close ties to Eire is delicious.

That the DUP who supported the Tories contains an MP that had known terrorist links

But...... Corbyn

 

[Ban-jani]

In good faith and rising above the copraphiliac abuse I followed your link preparing myself to re-examine their detailed proposals objectively in the light of your repeated recommdations
only to find
https://www.libdems.org.uk/policy_paper
Sorry, just like a parliamentary vote won by Boris Johnson, this page doesn't exist

Image: Chatham House
Boris Johnson is unfit for office. Agree? Add your name ➜

I agree

Very poor attempt at changing the link I provided to try and win an argument you’ve lost.

Do you think I’m that stupid?

The link is www.libdems.org.uk/policy_papers

Not www.libdems.org.uk/policy_paper

You have purposefully taken the ‘s’ off the end and now the whole forum knows how desperate you are.