"Disappointing" attendances

blueinsa said:
Not having it and my guess is something has been said.

5 mins from the end of the game the BBC started on the empty seats and it carries on into the interviews.

Fuck em.
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See mcmanaman was defending united empty seats again against Burnley this week
BArca and real never sell out
It’s only reserved for us
Did they mention how much of the allocation the Fulham fans took up
 
Rolee said:
A reasoned argument as to why a 50 year old that has spent his career in football understands a football rivalry?
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We should have beat utd 6-0 but didn’t because we showed them too much respect...or something like that.
 
I'm a bit torn in this discussion. The attendance yesterday wasn't brilliant, but we have to look at the factors that impact that:

- Bad kick off time
- Boring opposition
- Small away following
- Last game before Jan payday (everyone skint)
- We seem to play way more games than anyone else - they build up this time of year - people have lives outside football

I think the tickets could have been free yesterday and we wouldn't have filled the Etihad. We haven't got the fanbase that United and Liverpool have. United probably have 50x our support and couldn't' sell out a derby. Liverpool has a much larger fanbase and a similar-sized ground. More opportunity for non-regulars to pick up slack and fill seats. I think the average City fan will be attending way more games than most other fans and we're far from the wealthiest fanbase! Remember we won the domestic quadruple last season. We played every possible domestic fixute we could and only missed 3 in European competition. It's so much time, money and planning. Sometimes it's easier to pick and choose the odd game and Fulham wasn't the ideal opposition to entice us yesterday.

Having said all that, I know tons of local blues who go to one or two games a season. I reckon the club should do more to target these fans. They could arguably make more of an effort for these games.
 
Tb1981 said:
See mcmanaman was defending united empty seats again against Burnley this week
BArca and real never sell out
It’s only reserved for us
Did they mention how much of the allocation the Fulham fans took up
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It is part and parcel of the media arsenal that they will use when they have nothing else.

Its on tv in the hope that Fulham beat us and when that doesnt happen its find something else to have a go about.

Fuck em!
 
The problem is the amount of games we play now and boredom. I've been a season ticket holder for as long as I can remember, I'm fortunate in the sense I can probably afford to go to every game home and away if I choose but I choose not to because I'm sick and tired of the amount of games.

As much as I love City, family and friends come first and then you have work commitments on top. The expense, travelling, parking and hassle of rushing round mean I can't be arsed sometimes, I'd rather have a night at home or spend the day with my family and friends. Especially when it's the early rounds of the cups or champions League, even more so now with fucking VAR and twice the opportunity for officials to cheat us, I think fuck it, I'll stay at home thanks.

It's not just the players who are tired of football sometimes. Football is an entertainment business, it's up to the club and competition bodies (uefa, fa, premier League) to keep me entertained, it's not for me to throw money at a business otherwise I'd spend it in stocks and shares.
 
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TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
What's the organisation of tickets got to do with this, people buy their seats wherever they want if they're not on the cup scheme or the kids may have been taking the place of sc holders who didn't want to go?
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There's so much wrong with it. 115 is the most vocal part of the stadium. If you dilute it with children and tourists who're not going to sing you're killing the atmosphere! You're always going to get one or two, but I'd say half the block was families yesterday. Good that they're turning up and supporting the team, credit to them. But club should do more to entice singers to congregate.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
Bottom line, we don't have a big enough supporter base at the moment and it's expensive for people to go to every single match.

Having said that, people really need to toughen up - I have no issues with Pep trying to stir fans up into going. No need to get so defensive about it.
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And the fact that the FA cup has been dumbed down by managers, pep included, suggesting that the league is number 1 priority and fielding weaker teams. So many games televised and differing kick off times is killing the cup in my humble opinion.
 
bluemoon32 said:
Nearly 40,000 crowd for a game against lower league opposition, when fans are still skint because of Christmas & with upcoming games against United and Real Madrid to shell out for.
What's the fcuking problem ????
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That's a good point.

Especially when you consider Fulham only brought 1k. If they'd have sold out 8k like Port Vale managed, we'd be talking about a 47k+ attendance....
 
blueinsa said:
It is part and parcel of the media arsenal that they will use when they have nothing else.

Its on tv in the hope that Fulham beat us and when that doesnt happen its find something else to have a go about.

Fuck em!
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Then use Newcastle as the example of how to do it
Bearing in mind the fans hate the board and team haven’t won a thing in my lifetime
 
You can find historic cases of Man Utd and Liverpool getting poor gates but generally Man Utd and Liverpool and national if not globally supported clubs both attracting significant match-going numbers from abroad and nationwide whilst City are transitioning from a very loyal generally locally based team to an national football club and we don't have the numbers that they do yet because supporting a football club is a life decision. Fans may stop supporting a club but they never ever switch clubs. City's success over a decade helps sustain our existing fans, brings old ones back to the fray and brings loads of kids to the club - who rely on their parents to take them - but City need another decade, and most of all a ground expansion to catch up to Man Utd and Liverpool. The whole of the Republic of Ireland seems to be split three ways between Celtic, Man Utd and Liverpool. This is repeated to smaller extent in Scandinavia with Liverpool. We might outnumber Utd in Manchester now but not nationally and not globally.
 
Hes the left back remember said:
Not read the whole thread but did any interviewer ask OGS about the thousands of empty seats v Burnley last week?
Peps response to a loaded question wasnt the best but this could have been taken out of his hands if the club would have adopted the £10 adult and £1 for kids approach for a game broadcast live on terrestrial TV.
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It was kids for a quid in the lower tier of the North Stand but that was it. They should've extended it all round the ground.
 
Dear Sir/Madam,

I note recent media led comments about the attendance at the Etihad yesterday.

The attendance was the third highest in the fourth round, and coming on the back of games v Leics, SheffU, Everton, Port Vale and Crystal Palace and comments from various managers that there is too mugh football for the players - what about too much football for the ordinary man?

To take a child to all five games would cost £50+30 for Leics and Everton, £40+25 for SheffU and Palace and then £15+5 for each of the cup games. To attend all 6 games with one child would cost approx £330 - a weeks salary for a lot of people in Manchester.

With a Manchester derby semi final coming up in a few days and Real Madrid on the horizon and add to that the Fulham game being televised at an utterly garbage kick off time on a Sunday, I think it is fair to say fans reacted with their wallets on this one.

The press are happy to allow manageers such as Klopp say there is too much football - only today they lead with a story that his club won't be getting a winter break due to a replay, yet you are more than happy to publish stories about fans not attending when perhaps the answer is...too much football at too much cost.

Kind regards
 
Manchester33 said:
That's a good point.

Especially when you consider Fulham only brought 1k. If they'd have sold out 8k like Port Vale managed, we'd be talking about a 47k+ attendance....
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City's own fans were only down about 5k on Port vale which is probably due to the amount of football and costs as you say.

We are still short of Man Utd and Liverpool though and Pep is managing a team competing with these clubs so it comes up. There are no quick answers other than to keep winning and it will sort itself out.
 
Manchester33 said:
There's so much wrong with it. 115 is the most vocal part of the stadium. If you dilute it with children and tourists who're not going to sing you're killing the atmosphere! You're always going to get one or two, but I'd say half the block was families yesterday. Good that they're turning up and supporting the team, credit to them. But club should do more to entice singers to congregate.
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Fair point I suppose. Would it have sold enough if they banned U18s in there, though? Were they a kid for a quid also or was that just the NS?
 
Why when money is tight after Christmas and New Year,would you skint yourself when you have already purchased a seat through your TV License,no problem at a bar or getting a brew, won,t miss minutes before and after HT no traffic to fight your way through,only major drawback are the commentators,always mute.
 
Hes the left back remember said:
Not read the whole thread but did any interviewer ask OGS about the thousands of empty seats v Burnley last week?
Peps response to a loaded question wasnt the best but this could have been taken out of his hands if the club would have adopted the £10 adult and £1 for kids approach for a game broadcast live on terrestrial TV.
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A couple of points here.

Tickets for that game should have been rock bottom price, they were cheap but could have been cheaper.

We should have a system in place to give away tickets to local families with kids for free, it has been done for years by all clubs yet I don't see any evidence we do it on any scale. Equivalent games at Main rd were like a school day out at times. Our ground is surrounded by housing estates and schools. It would not be hard to set something up where we have the names of families who live within 2 or 3 miles of the ground who would want to go last minute. You just have them all on a list and fire out the offer on the morning of the game by text. We put masses of effort and resource in to all sorts of initiatives, we could do a lot more with this at minimal cost.

Other clubs are just the same. Lets see how many Liverpool get in for the Shrewsbury replay on a Wednesday night? Will they get 40k?
 
Manchester33 said:
There's so much wrong with it. 115 is the most vocal part of the stadium. If you dilute it with children and tourists who're not going to sing you're killing the atmosphere! You're always going to get one or two, but I'd say half the block was families yesterday. Good that they're turning up and supporting the team, credit to them. But club should do more to entice singers to congregate.
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115 should have some special arrangements for the special people that go in there. Maybe collection only from Mary D's bar.
 
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