Utter nonsese, you are confsuing two different issues, you clearly can't blame all evil people on their parental upbringing. However, If you have brought up kids you should realise that you have a responsibility to bring them up correctly and its no coincidence that kids brought up under poor parenting are less likley to be model citizens themselves.We can’t blame her family. She is responsible for her own decisions.
From your logic, we should blame Myra Hindley’s evils, not on her, but on her Mommy and Daddy.
And Ian Brady’s.
All the evil Nazi’s during World War II - it was because of their mommy’s and daddy’s.
I just can’t see how Begum is akin to girls being dragged off the street and raped. She voluntarily went there and joined the caliphate, the girls in Rotherham didn’t have any choice.
Some right snowflakes on this thread trying to blame everybody else apart from the girl herself for the predicament she now finds herself in.
Utter nonsese, you are confsuing two different issues, you clearly can't blame all evil people on their parental upbringing. However, If you have brought up kids you should realise that you have a responsibility to bring them up correctly and its no coincidence that kids brought up under poor parenting are less likley to be model citizens themselves.
I sincerely hope that she has an accident that is fatal, and doesn't get a chance to have a satisfying life.
I said that aswel.Maybe true but many offspring of responsible parents make poor choices and go off the rails
This isn't true, I genuinely mean it.
Well that's a load of bollocks.No you don’t.
This is just a thread in which people exorcise their own demons and try and one up each other in the ‘dick waving’ stakes.
Well that's a load of bollocks.
I'd say just about everyone I have talked to on this subject, would see her expire before being allowed back on these shores.
Is it Prince Andrew’s fault he associates with nonces? Apparently it’s not, but it’s all down to the Queen and Phil. Who knew?Utter nonsese, you are confsuing two different issues, you clearly can't blame all evil people on their parental upbringing. However, If you have brought up kids you should realise that you have a responsibility to bring them up correctly and its no coincidence that kids brought up under poor parenting are less likley to be model citizens themselves.
In the first post I said "maybe blame her parents" and in the second post I said if you are a kid brought up under poor parenting you are less likley to be a model citizen. Prey tell what part of those two sentences do you dissagree with and why??Is it Prince Andrew’s fault he associates with nonces? Apparently it’s not, but it’s all down to the Queen and Phil. Who knew?
I don’t disagree with either but you’ve no idea how she was brought up.In the first post I said "maybe blame her parents" and in the second post I said if you are a kid brought up under poor parenting you are less likley to be a model citizen. Prey tell what part of those two sentences do you dissagree with and why??
Someone being groomed is akin to someone else being groomed even if the desired outcomes and effects are different. Looks like we will have to agree to differ on how informed her choices might have been...
You are right that's why I used the word maybe? Can I sugest you go and argue with someone else, because I really don't see why you are trying so hard to argue with me.I don’t disagree with either but you’ve no idea how she was brought up.
It’s a controversial opinion I know, but I believe her age when she made these terrible choices should be a consideration. Not to exonerate or excuse her actions, but to explain them and provide a marginal degree of context.
On the basis that she doesn’t have Bangladeshi citizenship, I think revoking her citizenship is a ridiculous idea btw. Absolutely preposterous.
She needs to be punished, severely so, but if she’s prepared to face that, and deal with the consequences of her actions, then she should be allowed back imo.
@Mad Eyed Screamer have you figured out which one's Morrissey yet?
I think I've got Tommy Robinson and Nick Griffin.
I’m not trying to argue with you really, I’m just really conflicted by this one and yours was the last post at the time.You are right that's why I used the word maybe? Can I sugest you go and argue with someone else, because I really don't see why you are trying so hard to argue with me.
There is some irony in grown men describing her as evil and then happily lining up to hang her, shoot her or throw her out of a plane.....It’s a controversial opinion I know, but I believe her age when she made these terrible choices should be a consideration. Not to exonerate or excuse her actions, but to explain them and provide a marginal degree of context.
On the basis that she doesn’t have Bangladeshi citizenship, I think revoking her citizenship is a ridiculous idea btw. Absolutely preposterous.
She needs to be punished, severely so, but if she’s prepared to face that, and deal with the consequences of her actions, then she should be allowed back imo.
I’ve made this point previously, but if it’s such a good idea why haven’t they revoked the citizenship of Sutcliffe, Nilsen, Bamber, Bellfield, Tobin and Cregan; or is that different for some equally ridiculous reason?I agree with this. She is a British person that has committed crimes she should be tried for.
Has the U.K. ever tried this with any other Britain with the loophole of potential citizenship of their parents’ country? If not, why should it apply here?