journolud
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There is evil in the world and evil people. I don’t think she is the personification of it. Not a popular view I accept
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Shamima Begum
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There is evil in the world and evil people. I don’t think she is the personification of it. Not a popular view I accept
There is evil in the world and evil people. I don’t think she is the personification of it. Not a popular view I accept
You’re entitled to that view, I just think anyone who joined and shows no remorse fits the category of evil.
ISIS are one of the most evil organisations of all time and she knowingly helped them.
journolud
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You’re entitled to that view, I just think anyone who joined and shows no remorse fits the category of evil.
ISIS are one of the most evil organisations of all time and she knowingly helped them.
Begum doesn’t appear that bright to me, I could be wrong but I don’t think she is officer material. We’ll all have our own views about how informed her choices were
Kazzydeyna
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What sort of society have we allowed ourselves to become when a vulnerable child sees her future with Isis?
As despicable as her alleged actions may be, this is a young woman now, a child then, who had so little to anchor herself to this country that, to her, joining Isis was a better option.
She will almost certainly have to spend some time in prison because of her past but I do hope she receives the right support and care whilst inside to eventually be able to live a more satisfying life afterwards.
Like everyone i feel angry when I hear of her actions but I also feel sorrow for such a waste of a life and hope she gets the help she needs to become a more valuable member of our society.
As despicable as her alleged actions may be, this is a young woman now, a child then, who had so little to anchor herself to this country that, to her, joining Isis was a better option.
She will almost certainly have to spend some time in prison because of her past but I do hope she receives the right support and care whilst inside to eventually be able to live a more satisfying life afterwards.
Like everyone i feel angry when I hear of her actions but I also feel sorrow for such a waste of a life and hope she gets the help she needs to become a more valuable member of our society.
PannickAtTheDisco
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What sort of society have we allowed ourselves to become when a vulnerable child sees her future with Isis?
As despicable as her alleged actions may be, this is a young woman now, a child then, who had so little to anchor herself to this country that, to her, joining Isis was a better option.
She will almost certainly have to spend some time in prison because of her past but I do hope she receives the right support and care whilst inside to eventually be able to live a more satisfying life afterwards.
Like everyone i feel angry when I hear of her actions but I also feel sorrow for such a waste of a life and hope she gets the help she needs to become a more valuable member of our society.
fuck that, "become a more valuable member of society". Beyond redemption that quote.
She certainly evokes less sympathy than the victims of the Rochdale grooming gangs who were dismissed as children prostitues at the time but are now rightly referred to as victims.
Begum doesn’t appear that bright to me, I could be wrong but I don’t think she is officer material. We’ll all have our own views about how informed her choices were
I just can’t see how Begum is akin to girls being dragged off the street and raped. She voluntarily went there and joined the caliphate, the girls in Rotherham didn’t have any choice.
Churchlawtonblue
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You cant blame society for her actions. Maybe blame her family for not bringing her up better. But as a guess I would say 99.9999% in our society don't behave like she did.What sort of society have we allowed ourselves to become when a vulnerable child sees her future with Isis?
As despicable as her alleged actions may be, this is a young woman now, a child then, who had so little to anchor herself to this country that, to her, joining Isis was a better option.
She will almost certainly have to spend some time in prison because of her past but I do hope she receives the right support and care whilst inside to eventually be able to live a more satisfying life afterwards.
Like everyone i feel angry when I hear of her actions but I also feel sorrow for such a waste of a life and hope she gets the help she needs to become a more valuable member of our society.
Churchlawtonblue
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Some right snowflakes on this thread trying to blame everybody else apart from the girl herself for the predicament she now finds herself in.
mexico1970
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Some right snowflakes on this thread trying to blame everybody else apart from the girl herself for the predicament she now finds herself in.
Say they allow her back in? Her new identity will mean nothing in the cultural community they will place her in. They will know who she is and she'll end up being a celebrity in some parts of those communities, it's hard to be "Unknown" in the Muslim community in the UK if you're a Muslim woman.
This is like the script of a badly scripted American TV show.
journolud
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"...... & so say all - well a couple - of us......"
Fuck that - people select their choices - they need to pick up the tab
I’m all for the judicial system following its course, sentencing appropriately and offering the prospect of rehabilitation.