COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Vic said:
I tried that on Thursday. I even took proof of age because I don't look as old as I am...

Needn't have bothered. Lots of younger customers.
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Apparently yesterday and presumably Thursday were ‘learning days’ so they didn’t enforce it. That was certainly the case in Waitrose where my colleagues’ other half went. She asked the staff

I went to Tesco in Sale at about 9:15 and it was chocker full of old folk and general customers - someone needs 1) to enforce it and 2) help the older people get round a little quicker and out so they don’t have to mix and queue with the general public
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
G-Tech have developed ones that don't require electricity. They're hopeful to go into production in a week or two and they can produce 100 per day. They also seem willing to let other companies manufacture using their design.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.....medical-ventilator-manufactured-matter-days/
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Looks a pretty simple contraption. I have to admit to being cynical when the government asked for them to be manufactured but maybe it was an inspired move. I cant see many F1 teams have difficulty manufacturing that.
 
tweety said:
Playing golf at Warrington this afternoon, haven't played for a month due to injury, can't wait. Hopefully the course will stay open for the duration. Stay fit and well everyone.
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Not too much probably but it’s about reducing risk and buying food is essential.
 
Our first day as a family of self isolation. Feeling fed up all ready ! Not much food in the house , can we go and get food or do we need someone to do it for us ? Today is our normal shopping day that why we are abit low. I am abit nervous about asking someone to do our shop as i am putting them at risk by going into a shop that will probably be mostly empty.
My kid brother is also self isolating due to have copd, his wifes surprised birthday party is of as is his daughter's wedding, due to this.

I think it has really hit home in the last 12 hrs , I think we are all abit it wouldnt happen to us , but within the last 12hrs its rammed up. I am scared for my missus who is diabetic, for my kid brother with his breathing problems, I dont mind admitting I am now scared, very worried. My counciling for depression is cancelled, quite righty...I need to work on staying positive which I am sure I will

Keep safe everyone
 
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For those over 70 year olds, completely appalled by yesterday's reports from BBC correspondents that isolation could last for 12 months, this is not the most likely explanation.

Please find below a tweet from the scientist whose work lies behind the current suppression model. The graphic (not his work but he endorses it) considers the medium term.



In particular see the timescale and 'the Dance'.

The BBC says to be aware of social media misinformation. They should perhaps consider that some of their own reports of 12 months of isolation are actually not supported by the best science. They are worse case scenarios.

I thought this was important to circulate as my over 70s parents were completely dismayed by the prospect of 12 months of this. They have new grandchildren who they are waiting desperately to see.
 
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give it to gordon said:
Our first day as a family of self isolation. Feeling fed up all ready ! Not much food in the house , can we go and get food or do we need someone to do it for us ? Today is our normal shopping day that why we are abit low. I am abit nervous about asking someone to do our shop as i am putting them at risk by going into a shop that will probably be mostly empty.
My kid brother is also self isolating due to have copd, his wifes surprised birthday party is of as is his daughter's wedding, due to this.

I think it has really hit home in the last 12 hrs , I think we are all abit it wouldnt happen to us , but within the last 12hrs its rammed up. I am scared for my missus who is diabetic, for my kid brother with his breathing problems, I dont mind admitting I am now scared, very worried. My counciling for depression is cancelled, quite righty...I need to work on staying positive which I am sure I will

Keep safe everyone
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Although very difficult , try to keep your spirits up for you and your family blue we all have to be considerate and strong
 
urban genie said:
While we fight each other over bog roll

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Aw bless their uncertain Bavarian voices, sometimes you realize the world wouldn't be the same without your usual cultural rivals. I'm impressed by those large door roofs, they seem very functional.
 
Can anyone help me with advice please as I have read so much I am confused.

We are self isolating because my lads gf has been told to ( she works in hospital ). My lads bosses have told him to do the same, which means we have been told to as well by our surgery.

Can one of us go out and get food etc or do we have to get someone to shop for us ?

Thanks ...
 
Blue Hefner said:
Apparently yesterday and presumably Thursday were ‘learning days’ so they didn’t enforce it. That was certainly the case in Waitrose where my colleagues’ other half went. She asked the staff

I went to Tesco in Sale at about 9:15 and it was chocker full of old folk and general customers - someone needs 1) to enforce it and 2) help the older people get round a little quicker and out so they don’t have to mix and queue with the general public
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I live in brooklands and its carnage in the supermarkets, really is dog eat dog. I'm currently getting things to do in the garden makes a difference being outside!
 
Marvin said:
For those over 70 year olds, completely appalled by yesterday's reports from BBC correspondents that isolation could last for 12 months, this is not the most likely explanation.

Please find below a tweet from the scientist whose work lies behind the current suppression model. The graphic (not his work but he endorses it) considers the medium term.



In particular see the timescale and 'the Dance'.

The BBC says to be aware of social media misinformation. They should perhaps consider that some of their own reports of 12 months of isolation are actually not supported by the best science. They are worse case scenarios.

I thought this was important to circulate as my over 70s parents were completely dismayed by the prospect of 12 months of this. They have new grandchildren who they are waiting desperately to see.
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The only sensible approach is everyone
isolates regardless of age right now.. Then in a few months the numbers will be way down.

If people are still going out to the non food shops,take aways, and generally taking a more relaxed view of it, the virus will spread across the younger and middle aged population. Then it might well be the case that older folks need to stay isolated for longer to avoid contact with those infected.
 
cleavers said:
They have about 5 times the number of ventilator beds than we do, if I remember correctly, that's the highest in europe so perhaps those beds are just keeping them alive longer ?

That said, their death rate has increased significantly in recent days, and their infection rate isn't slowing either, it was 1500 more today than yesterday (4500+), up by nearly 50% in a day today (under 3000 yesterday).
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Yep. Death rate up around 50% each of the last 2 days
 
bluemcr said:
I live in brooklands and its carnage in the supermarkets, really is dog eat dog. I'm currently getting things to do in the garden makes a difference being outside!
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I’m Brooklands as well. I live off Brooklands road just before the big roundabout near the co-op
 
give it to gordon said:
Can anyone help me with advice please as I have read so much I am confused.

We are self isolating because my lads gf has been told to ( she works in hospital ). My lads bosses have told him to do the same, which means we have been told to as well by our surgery.

Can one of us go out and get food etc or do we have to get someone to shop for us ?

Thanks ...
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Ideally it is said try and see if you can get someone to go shops for you and leave at the door.

I am in the high risk group and have my parents, and two friend who have offered to go shops for me if necessary, luckily because of my work I have a face mask and disposable gloves so if I do desperately need to go shops I don these as an extra precaution.
 
robbieh said:
The only sensible approach is everyone
isolates regardless of age right now.. Then in a few months the numbers will be way down.

If people are still going out to the non food shops,take aways, and generally taking a more relaxed view of it, the virus will spread across the younger and middle aged population. Then it might well be the case that older folks need to stay isolated for longer to avoid contact with those infected.
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Yes. I am isolating. So are my Mum and Dad. I skyped them yesterday but was upset at their reaction that a BBC report was suggesting they'd still be isolating in 12 months. That really isn't the projection at all.

People IMO do need to isolate and follow the advice but they also need hope.
 
Not sure if this article from the Lancet has been linked here as it’s a couple of days old but very interesting read on co-morbidity factors.

ACE inhibitors such as used by diabetics and those who have high blood pressure seem to increase the production of ACE2, the cell type that nCov binds to, which may mean that such people are at risk. It seems ACE2 is substantially increased in patients with type 1 or type 2 diabetes, who are treated with ACE inhibitors and angiotensin II type-I receptor blockers (ARBs).

if anybody does take these tablets for either ailment can’t they come off them for a while safely? during this period? Huge amount of diabetics in the UK and US so not sure if these inhibitors are dispensed of to everyone with 1 and 2?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30116-8/fulltext
 
karen7 said:
There were people who didn't take me seriously when i had this virus really badly,kicking the bucket would have freed up some bandwidth but sorry i held on
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I am still remembering me being to told to "wipe your fanny" when 3 weeks ago, I said this was the biggest crisis facing this country since WW2.
 
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