COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Don’t understand why everyone, media included, are getting so wound up by all this numbers of deaths reporting.

In times like this it just really isn’t that important.
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-s...and-cremation-during-the-coronavirus-pandemic
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Thanks.

I note it says:

"Medical practitioners are required to certify causes of death “to the best of their knowledge and belief”. Without diagnostic proof, if appropriate and to avoid delay, medical practitioners can circle ‘2’ in the MCCD (“information from post-mortem may be available later”) or tick Box B on the reverse of the MCCD for ante-mortem investigations. For example, if before death the patient had symptoms typical of COVID-19 infection, but the test result has not been received, it would be satisfactory to give ‘COVID-19’ as the cause of death, tick Box B and then share the test result when it becomes available."

This would seem imply that any certification of a COVID-19 death which is not supported by a test result is only provisional, and that the records should be updated when the results are in?

My question still stands, that is, is EVERYONE who dies in the UK being tested for COVID-19?
 
west didsblue said:
The only way an accurate picture will emerge is by comparison with overall deaths in previous years. This is being done by ONS but the data takes time to come through and is inaccurate until several weeks later when all data sources are taken into account.
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True, but it will only give a more accurate picture of the deaths, but not an accurate one and not more about the virus. That is why it is so important to test, the dead as well as the living, since the more information we have, the more we can learn about this virus and the next.
 
west didsblue said:
Apologies for feeding the troll.
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It takes at least two to have an argument. and I'm not bothered which one of you started it. as per The forum rules; "Avoid getting into personal arguments and derailing threads. Please keep it to private messages or, if necessary, use the ignore function."
That rule is there because other posters get pissed off if two members use a thread for an argument.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
I think they record it if you showed symptoms before you died . My mates dad died in a care home had everything you can think of dementia , heart condition nearly 90 in the end he was down as a covid death as showed symptoms

if you recall the poor young girl who died early on 13 (?) was said to die of covid even though she had heart failure , on the basis she had a cough before her death ( that may have been overturned though )

The main point is there are many of people being recorded as covid deaths when they had very serious long term conditions and unfortunately this just sadly finishes them off

it’s the underlying health condition category when they report the deaths so it is categorised as such in reality but it still counts in our raw death data
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It is important people know this but many don't. My parents haven't left the house in 3 weeks, both have had every covid symptom going, and my dad last week said to me he felt he was going to go but didn't want to go to the hospital. They're 75, but fit and heathly. If every death showing symptoms is recorded as covid, I would assume it it to cause shock and make people stay indoors. There does however need to be more transparency.
 
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