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Blue Hefner said:
Just got back from a brief trip to the local co-op. It's like people think this is all over. More people in the shop than previous weeks, very little social distancing, kids in the shop as well and people dawdling on the aisle

On a wider topic, why do people where masks in cars and single use gloves for more than one task i.e in the car, getting a trolley then picking up goods etc.?
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I am absolutely disgusted at the number of discarded gloves and masks you see these scum leaving in the trolley or just throw on the ground. As for in the car I actually saw someone driving in a mask with a fag in his hand...............I mean how the fuck do you smoke it? Is the mask the ultimate filter tip? Do you pull the mask aside to take a drag? If so when you do that who is doing the fucking driving?????
 
bluethrunthru said:
I am absolutely disgusted at the number of discarded gloves and masks you see these scum leaving in the trolley or just throw on the ground. As for in the car I actually saw someone driving in a mask with a fag in his hand...............I mean how the fuck do you smoke it? Is the mask the ultimate filter tip? Do you pull the mask aside to take a drag? If so when you do that who is doing the fucking driving?????
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bluethrunthru said:
I am absolutely disgusted at the number of discarded gloves and masks you see these scum leaving in the trolley or just throw on the ground. As for in the car I actually saw someone driving in a mask with a fag in his hand...............I mean how the fuck do you smoke it? Is the mask the ultimate filter tip? Do you pull the mask aside to take a drag? If so when you do that who is doing the fucking driving?????
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who's driving the boat?
 
johnnytapia said:
Isn¨t a bad test worse than no test though? Especially if accuracy, as Cityfan points out, could drop to 60%? Potentially thousands waltzing around thinking they¨ŕe now immune, when they wouldn¨t be.
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you are so right,a bad tests and results in downright dangerous
 
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johnnytapia said:
Do we have a reliable antibody test?
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MHRA guidelines require 98% clinical reliability (with statisically zero false positives) and 98% clinical specifically (I.e. it has to detect low levels of antibodies).

The first a test kit from Forth, a company in Chepstow South Wales
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/n...sting-kit-98-accuracy-launched-chepstow-firm/

The second a test machine from a French company called Quotient with labs in Scotland . I'm not sure where it will be manufactured - probably France.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-52529294

And the third from Roche diagnosticsc in the UK. Roche has to manufacture some in the UK to get a licence but it will probably be mainly swiss/german manufacture.
https://www.med-technews.com/news/roche-s-covid-19-antibody-test-approved-for-use-in-the-uk/

There is also one at Oxford University that passes MHRA guidelines but is awaiting approval. This will be the one used in PHE antibody testing and will be manufactured in large quantities by the end of May.
 
BlueAnorak said:
MHRA guidelines require 98% clinical reliability (with minimal false positives) and 98% clinical specifically (I.e. it has to detect low levels of antibodies).

The first a test kit from Forth, a company in Chepstow South Wales
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/n...sting-kit-98-accuracy-launched-chepstow-firm/

The second a test machine from a French company called Quotient with labs in Scotland . I'm not sure where it will be manufactured - probably France.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-52529294

And the third from Roche diagnosticsc in the UK. Roche has to manufacture some in the UK to get a licence but it will probably be mainly swiss/german manufacture.
https://www.med-technews.com/news/roche-s-covid-19-antibody-test-approved-for-use-in-the-uk/

There is also one at Oxford University that passes MHRA guidelines but is awaiting approval. This will be the one used in PHE antibody testing and will be manufactured in large quantities by the end of May.
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Ta for that.
 
BJL_City said:
why not? As long as you put them on as you leave home and take them off when you get home then it's largely irrelevant.
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It’s not. Single use gloves are only any real use if used for a single task I.e taking blood

If you wear gloves all the time this essentially becoming your hands so you pick up the virus and spread it as you would with your hands. You may also pick your nose with gloves on if you’ve had them on for ages due to complacency. Also, taking them off without spreading the virus can be difficult
 
Blue Hefner said:
Just got back from a brief trip to the local co-op. It's like people think this is all over. More people in the shop than previous weeks, very little social distancing, kids in the shop as well and people dawdling on the aisle

On a wider topic, why do people where masks in cars and single use gloves for more than one task i.e in the car, getting a trolley then picking up goods etc.?
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The trick is not to touch your phone or anything else you will then be handling once you have taken the dirty glove off,people fail in this straight away and not washing hands because they had gloves on,it is a false sense of security in many ways,same as with masks
 
karen7 said:
The trick is not to touch your phone or anything else you will then be handling once you have taken the dirty glove off,people fail in this straight away and not washing hands because they had gloves on,it is a false sense of security in many ways,same as with masks
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I completely agree
 
karen7 said:
Another 350 people who tested positive for Covid-19 have died in hospitals in England.

The total number of confirmed coronavirus deaths has risen to 23,709, NHS England said.

Of the 350 deaths announced today, 44 occurred on 11 May, 90 occurred on 10 May and 44 occurred on 9 May.

The figures also show 92 of the newly announced deaths took place between 1 May and 8 May, 76 took place in April, while the remaining four deaths occurred in March, with the earliest occuring on17 March.

NHS England releases updated figures each day showing the dates of every coronavirus-related death in hospitals in England, often including previously uncounted deaths that took place several days or even weeks ago.

This is because of the time it takes for deaths to be confirmed as testing positive for Covid-19, for post-mortem examinations to be processed and for data from the tests to be validated.

There have been a further nine deaths of patients who tested positive for Covid-19 in Northern Ireland, bringing fatalities to 447.

Another 50 deaths in Scotland

The latest UK-wide figures are expected later

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That will screw up GD's graph with 4 deaths that were not recorded in March!
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
I can see that but wouldn’t you test twice if you had a positive test ?

I don’t know to be honest , we have to deal with what we have until we have something better
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That would depend on the reason for a false result, if it was cross reaction between other antibodies that you have you would still get the false result.

All diagnostic tests have a certain level of false results it can't really be avoided, the problem if you have a low level of a condition even an accurate test will generate a lot false positives.
 
BlueAnorak said:
MHRA guidelines require 98% clinical reliability (with statisically zero false positives) and 98% clinical specifically (I.e. it has to detect low levels of antibodies).

The first a test kit from Forth, a company in Chepstow South Wales
https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/n...sting-kit-98-accuracy-launched-chepstow-firm/

The second a test machine from a French company called Quotient with labs in Scotland . I'm not sure where it will be manufactured - probably France.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-52529294

And the third from Roche diagnosticsc in the UK. Roche has to manufacture some in the UK to get a licence but it will probably be mainly swiss/german manufacture.
https://www.med-technews.com/news/roche-s-covid-19-antibody-test-approved-for-use-in-the-uk/

There is also one at Oxford University that passes MHRA guidelines but is awaiting approval. This will be the one used in PHE antibody testing and will be manufactured in large quantities by the end of May.
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Not for clinical use,this has to be spelled out
 
Of the 23,709 confirmed reported deaths so far in hospitals in England of people who tested positive for Covid-19

(53%) have been people aged 80 and over
(39%) were 60-79, NHS England said.

So 91% of all hospital Covid-19 deaths have been people aged 60 or over.

(8%) were aged 40-59
(1%) aged 20-39
(0.05%) aged 0-19.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Of the 23,709 confirmed reported deaths so far in hospitals in England of people who tested positive for Covid-19

(53%) have been people aged 80 and over
(39%) were 60-79, NHS England said.

So 91% of all hospital Covid-19 deaths have been people aged 60 or over.

(8%) were aged 40-59
(1%) aged 20-39
(0.05%) aged 0-19.
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(8%) were aged 40-59

Would love to know what the actually split is for between 40-49 and 50-59

Interesting stats nevertheless
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Of the 23,709 confirmed reported deaths so far in hospitals in England of people who tested positive for Covid-19

(53%) have been people aged 80 and over
(39%) were 60-79, NHS England said.

So 91% of all hospital Covid-19 deaths have been people aged 60 or over.

(8%) were aged 40-59
(1%) aged 20-39
(0.05%) aged 0-19.
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53+39=92
 
didsburyblu said:
So 627 more deaths today and tommorow its, back to work for lots and fun in the parks for the rest.
Were not getting through this anytime soon are we :(
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It’s mad isn’t it. 600 / 700 people a day dying on average for the last two weeks, but let’s all go back to work. by far the worst in Europe

I refused to go into work today. Luckily they were understanding, but many others won’t be
 
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