Bring the Noise

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

Total fucking cheese on toast. Incessant annoying drum banging, cringeworthy choreographed overhead clapping, monotonous songs with no words...no spontaneity, no humour, too many band geeks not watching the game...

We’ve already got better chants than any set of Ultras. We just need to sing them more and not stoop to the levels of dross in the Ultras scene.

Casuals > Ultras

Define “a casual”

 

[birch villa]

When the sheik gets bored and we return to our rightful place the atmosphere will improve

 

[Man-chester copperpot]

That made absolutely no sense whatsoever :/

My apologies, that was a bit rushed - what i meant was...
You stopped reading at that point as you disagreed with my opinion that i would like a drum to help the atmosphere.
Supporters in the singing section near me have stopped singing.
A lot of people do not want a drum and we have not got any other idea’s how to improve the atmosphere.
We blame the club for the poor atmosphere on some occasions.
Near me they would rather stick the V’s and w@nker signs to the away fans as banter then stand there with arms folded instead of giving vocal support to the team on the pitch which is quite the opposite of a singing section.

 

[trevorriley]

I sit at the back of the South Stand level 1 singing section (next to the away fans) and i would gladly have a drum to keep a rythm going to keep people singing.
I’ve said this before, plenty of times people near me bang the seats up & down to try and get a song going (until the stewards tell them to stop)
You can’t tell me it doesn’t work - just look at Palace,Celtic, Rangers etc....
But when you have quite a few people against the idea, we can’t moan or see our arses when most of the section are stood there with armes folded biting their nails while about 20 of us are trying to get songs started at the back.
My honest opinion is that some of the people in the singing section aren’t there to sing but to have banter with the away fans.
I would love all 2000 or 3000 fans in our section to be constantly singing & bouncing......unfortunately we’ve not done anything like that since the Poznan.
This isn’t me having a pop at other supporters - it’s just my opinion.

i was going to post at first on the comment about some german fan getting fed up at going to the games and hearing the same songs and drum beat. He was probably one of those moaning sods that you get in all stadiums, great atmosphere at german grounds and you get a fan complaining about it !! He is probably the sort of guy that if you gave him a £20 note out of generosity he would say "id prefer two tenners" ! If he doesnt like it that much he could always stick ear phones in and watch the game instead !

Fair comments their mate, its simple really to get an atmosphere going but to many people prefer to comment on a song or drum they dislike. Just bloody sing, if somebody wants to bring a drum so what, its not going to kill us. Just go with it, cant suit everybody in the stadium but if we keep picking and choosing nobody will sing. Im not saying im a fan of a drum or dislike it but if one got used and the atmosphere was good i wouldnt get in a fluster over it. It would be great to go to a game and have the same sort of noise of Rangers / celtic.

My bugbear is people in the singing section with no intention of singing, this kills the atmosphere. Leave that area and allow people in that want to sing, also if you want to sing move in to that area. Wont need a drum or megaphone if enough fans clap and sing. Poznan didnt have a drum and listen to the noise they made.

lets get safestand in, get all the singers to group, belt songs out.

 

[moggymoz]

My apologies, that was a bit rushed - what i meant was...
You stopped reading at that point as you disagreed with my opinion that i would like a drum to help the atmosphere.
Supporters in the singing section near me have stopped singing.
A lot of people do not want a drum and we have not got any other idea’s how to improve the atmosphere.
We blame the club for the poor atmosphere on some occasions.
Near me they would rather stick the V’s and w@nker signs to the away fans as banter then stand there with arms folded instead of giving vocal support to the team on the pitch which is quite the opposite of a singing section.

I've been supporting City for 40+ years and the Kippax was where it was at, so to me a standing section where you can all stand and congregate with your mates is the only way we will ever get that true atmosphere back again...

 

[WestGorton]

It's a complete myth at any club that the atmosphere was better in the old days. The big game is always better than the not so big game. The difference is young lads could congregate in one place so maybe more songs sung but didn't always travel like it can now. Swings and roundabouts. All clubs are the same. I do not want the German way coming over here. Robotic line dancing nonsense.

 

[moggymoz]

i was going to post at first on the comment about some german fan getting fed up at going to the games and hearing the same songs and drum beat. He was probably one of those moaning sods that you get in all stadiums, great atmosphere at german grounds and you get a fan complaining about it !! He is probably the sort of guy that if you gave him a £20 note out of generosity he would say "id prefer two tenners" ! If he doesnt like it that much he could always stick ear phones in and watch the game instead !

Fair comments their mate, its simple really to get an atmosphere going but to many people prefer to comment on a song or drum they dislike. Just bloody sing, if somebody wants to bring a drum so what, its not going to kill us. Just go with it, cant suit everybody in the stadium but if we keep picking and choosing nobody will sing. Im not saying im a fan of a drum or dislike it but if one got used and the atmosphere was good i wouldnt get in a fluster over it. It would be great to go to a game and have the same sort of noise of Rangers / celtic.

My bugbear is people in the singing section with no intention of singing, this kills the atmosphere. Leave that area and allow people in that want to sing, also if you want to sing move in to that area. Wont need a drum or megaphone if enough fans clap and sing. Poznan didnt have a drum and listen to the noise they made.

lets get safestand in, get all the singers to group, belt songs out.

I actually play the drums and let me tell you there is nothing more annoying than some monotonous drum beat going on for 90+ minutes

 

[moggymoz]

It's a complete myth at any club that the atmosphere was better in the old days. The big game is always better than the not so big game. The difference is young lads could congregate in one place so maybe more songs sung but didn't always travel like it can now. Swings and roundabouts. All clubs are the same. I do not want the German way coming over here. Robotic line dancing nonsense.

Have to disagree... When you were stood in a jam packed kippax with a Beer in your hand and everyone swaying, singing and falling over each other, that was an atmosphere, which sadly looks like It has gone forever :(

 

[Man-chester copperpot]

I actually play the drums and let me tell you there is nothing more annoying than some monotonous drum beat going on for 90+ minutes

I understand where your coming from, but if your in a “singing section” like at Palace, Celtic etc....your bouncing up & down, shouting, singing & clapping for 90mins anyway so would the sound of a drum really spoil that or improve it? From what i’m guessing aswell, is that the drum isn’t right next to you in a seat....the drum is usually at the front of the stand isnt it? (I may be wrong)
Would the sound of people on both sides, behind and infront of you clapping for 90+ mins be as annoying?
I don’t know what the answer is?
Maybe give everyone a can of Tennants Super on the concourse before the game? Maybe interview each person and see how loud they are before giving them access to that section?
We can’t please everyone but we can all make an effort and hope it improves. Fingers crossed

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Best away fans I’ve heard at the Etihad in recent years have been Atalanta who didn’t bring a drum and SheffUnited who didn’t bring a drum.

Best atmospheres I’ve been to in recent years have been City v Spurs in the CL and Liverpool v City and neither ground had a drum.

I’ve been to Palace three times and their atmosphere is shit. When you’re actually there it just sounds like a little section in the corner, the away fans make as much noise.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I understand where your coming from, but if your in a “singing section” like at Palace, Celtic etc....your bouncing up & down, shouting, singing & clapping for 90mins anyway so would the sound of a drum really spoil that or improve it? From what i’m guessing aswell, is that the drum isn’t right next to you in a seat....the drum is usually at the front of the stand isnt it? (I may be wrong)
Would the sound of people on both sides, behind and infront of you clapping for 90+ mins be as annoying?
I don’t know what the answer is?
Maybe give everyone a can of Tennants Super on the concourse before the game? Maybe interview each person and see how loud they are before giving them access to that section?
We can’t please everyone but we can all make an effort and hope it improves. Fingers crossed

Every time we have a good atmosphere shows we don’t need a drum. We just need to get more people up for the games more that aren’t big games.

One thing I’ve noticed is that loads of fans around the ground don’t know any of the newer songs we sing.

Because of the closed shop to away games so only the same small number get to go, the small singing section in SSL1, the lack of pubs around the ground... there aren’t enough people being exposed to enough of our new chants.

We need proper platforms to get these chants more widely spread.

SSL1 can be bouncing along to a new chant and only pockets of fans around the ground will know it.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Best away fans I’ve heard at the Etihad in recent years have been Atalanta who didn’t bring a drum and SheffUnited who didn’t bring a drum.

Best atmospheres I’ve been to in recent years have been City v Spurs in the CL and Liverpool v City and neither ground had a drum.

I’ve been to Palace three times and their atmosphere is shit. When you’re actually there it just sounds like a little section in the corner, the away fans make as much noise.

you seem to be really against a drum. I think your second paragraph sums it up for me though. We’ve had a handful of games over the last few years with a really good atmosphere, in games where it should be anyway. This season in particular has been pretty poor.

If we could get to a scenario where everyone just sings and it was a traditional atmosphere I’d be all for that, but it’s just not going to happen. No home end, lack of singers together, prices .....

we have to try something different and change the culture. I’d much rather have drums, flags and all that, if it meant 90 minutes of singing. By the way drums don’t have to be used all game, just for the odd song to keep rhythm.

It’s not that different from when seats are banged on

 

[Deleted member 77198]

you seem to be really against a drum. I think your second paragraph sums it up for me though. We’ve had a handful of games over the last few years with a really good atmosphere, in games where it should be anyway. This season in particular has been pretty poor.

If we could get to a scenario where everyone just sings and it was a traditional atmosphere I’d be all for that, but it’s just not going to happen. No home end, lack of singers together, prices .....

we have to try something different and change the culture. I’d much rather have drums, flags and all that, if it meant 90 minutes of singing. By the way drums don’t have to be used all game, just for the odd song to keep rhythm.

It’s not that different from when seats are banged on

The Liverpool v City game was at Anfield.

I’m really against a drum because anywhere I’ve been where there’s been a drum in the ground or when away fans have brought one to our place, by about the fifth minute I’ve had e-fucking-nough of that same fucking banging rhythm they all do. It’s simply annoying!

When you’re right next their home drum in the away section at Leicester, it’s probably the most annoying experience I’ve had.

 

[willipp]

you seem to be really against a drum. I think your second paragraph sums it up for me though. We’ve had a handful of games over the last few years with a really good atmosphere, in games where it should be anyway. This season in particular has been pretty poor.

If we could get to a scenario where everyone just sings and it was a traditional atmosphere I’d be all for that, but it’s just not going to happen. No home end, lack of singers together, prices .....

we have to try something different and change the culture. I’d much rather have drums, flags and all that, if it meant 90 minutes of singing. By the way drums don’t have to be used all game, just for the odd song to keep rhythm.

It’s not that different from when seats are banged on

Unless we sort out the layout / spread of home fans then drum / no drum will make no difference in my opinion. We've had some amazing atmospheres over the last few years, but they are few and far between. It can be done, but whilst we have different singing areas split between away fans, across tiers etc, its always going to be the same.

We have one last chance to get this right when we finally develop the north stand. If we balls that one up then i fear that will be our last chance.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Best away fans I’ve heard at the Etihad in recent years have been Atalanta who didn’t bring a drum and SheffUnited who didn’t bring a drum.

Best atmospheres I’ve been to in recent years have been City v Spurs in the CL and Liverpool v City and neither ground had a drum.

I’ve been to Palace three times and their atmosphere is shit. When you’re actually there it just sounds like a little section in the corner, the away fans make as much noise.

Yeah it's amazing what TV can do with the sound.

Turn it to 11 at Anfield, swamp & Selhurst.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

The Liverpool v City game was at Anfield.

I’m really against a drum because anywhere I’ve been where there’s been a drum in the ground or when away fans have brought one to our place, by about the fifth minute I’ve had e-fucking-nough of that same fucking banging rhythm they all do. It’s simply annoying!

When you’re right next their home drum in the away section at Leicester, it’s probably the most annoying experience I’ve had.

so the best atmospheres you’ve heard/ been created have been by away fans and Liverpool? Doesn’t that just sum up the problem of how bad it’s got.

that’s part of why I think we have to do something different. I understand it might be annoying, but we don’t have to copy Leicester or some other team. We could just use it for the odd song, guardiola or another - So barely used at all. Too many of our songs are sung at lightening pace.

for me personally I want things like a megaphone used, flags most of the game first, but if it helps then so be it. Too many fans are embarrassed to sing, clap, make any noise at all as it is

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Unless we sort out the layout / spread of home fans then drum / no drum will make no difference in my opinion. We've had some amazing atmospheres over the last few years, but they are few and far between. It can be done, but whilst we have different singing areas split between away fans, across tiers etc, its always going to be the same.

We have one last chance to get this right when we finally develop the north stand. If we balls that one up then i fear that will be our last chance.

100% agree. Above anything - drums, flags..... we need a proper home end. It’s the main thing we’ve been missing in our ground for years now.

 

[Greggery Peccary]

Every time we have a good atmosphere shows we don’t need a drum. We just need to get more people up for the games more that aren’t big games.

One thing I’ve noticed is that loads of fans around the ground don’t know any of the newer songs we sing.

Because of the closed shop to away games so only the same small number get to go, the small singing section in SSL1, the lack of pubs around the ground... there aren’t enough people being exposed to enough of our new chants.

We need proper platforms to get these chants more widely spread.

SSL1 can be bouncing along to a new chant and only pockets of fans around the ground will know it.

Some great points in there. The explosion of the Boss nights have worked brilliantly for us. Great little dos where you can have a good old sing song and a bevvy. But with their popularity going through the roof, they’re doing them all over the world now. Jamie Webster and the lads were getting ready to tour Australia the other week. Whilst TAW & indeed the Boss nights aren’t for everyone, it’s hard to argue against the fact that it’s been a big factor in the almost united fan front at the moment. Say it again, it’s an absolute tap in for the right fans here.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Some great points in there. The explosion of the Boss nights have worked brilliantly for us. Great little dos where you can have a good old sing song and a bevvy. But with their popularity going through the roof, they’re doing them all over the world now. Jamie Webster and the lads were getting ready to tour Australia the other week. Whilst TAW & indeed the Boss nights aren’t for everyone, it’s hard to argue against the fact that it’s been a big factor in the almost united fan front at the moment. Say it again, it’s an absolute tap in for the right fans here.

Indeed, things like this would be ideal. Get a bloke on stage, loads of beers in and sing City songs sung for a few hours.

I can’t say I’d go often, but know loads would love it, especially the younger lads.

I also think we need a proper active YouTube channel for the singing group to get songs out there. I’ve just had a look on YouTube and, unless I’m looking at the wrong one, our 1894 Group’s channel has got two videos and 9 subscribers.

 

[Greggery Peccary]

Indeed, things like this would be ideal. Get a bloke on stage, loads of beers in and sing City songs sung for a few hours.

I can’t say I’d go often, but know loads would love it, especially the younger lads.

I also think we need a proper active YouTube channel for the singing group to get songs out there. I’ve just had a look on YouTube and, unless I’m looking at the wrong one, our 1894 Group’s channel has got two videos and 9 subscribers.

In one there, it’s fantastic for the new generation of fans. The Boss lads have gone one step further in that they’ve started doing events for kids too. Ties the next generation in and and a brilliant way to maintain the next breed of matchgoers.