Bring the Noise

I understand where your coming from, but if your in a “singing section” like at Palace, Celtic etc....your bouncing up & down, shouting, singing & clapping for 90mins anyway so would the sound of a drum really spoil that or improve it? From what i’m guessing aswell, is that the drum isn’t right next to you in a seat....the drum is usually at the front of the stand isnt it? (I may be wrong)
Would the sound of people on both sides, behind and infront of you clapping for 90+ mins be as annoying?
I don’t know what the answer is?
Maybe give everyone a can of Tennants Super on the concourse before the game? Maybe interview each person and see how loud they are before giving them access to that section?
We can’t please everyone but we can all make an effort and hope it improves. Fingers crossed
Every time we have a good atmosphere shows we don’t need a drum. We just need to get more people up for the games more that aren’t big games.

One thing I’ve noticed is that loads of fans around the ground don’t know any of the newer songs we sing.

Because of the closed shop to away games so only the same small number get to go, the small singing section in SSL1, the lack of pubs around the ground... there aren’t enough people being exposed to enough of our new chants.

We need proper platforms to get these chants more widely spread.

SSL1 can be bouncing along to a new chant and only pockets of fans around the ground will know it.
 
Best away fans I’ve heard at the Etihad in recent years have been Atalanta who didn’t bring a drum and SheffUnited who didn’t bring a drum.

Best atmospheres I’ve been to in recent years have been City v Spurs in the CL and Liverpool v City and neither ground had a drum.

I’ve been to Palace three times and their atmosphere is shit. When you’re actually there it just sounds like a little section in the corner, the away fans make as much noise.

you seem to be really against a drum. I think your second paragraph sums it up for me though. We’ve had a handful of games over the last few years with a really good atmosphere, in games where it should be anyway. This season in particular has been pretty poor.

If we could get to a scenario where everyone just sings and it was a traditional atmosphere I’d be all for that, but it’s just not going to happen. No home end, lack of singers together, prices .....

we have to try something different and change the culture. I’d much rather have drums, flags and all that, if it meant 90 minutes of singing. By the way drums don’t have to be used all game, just for the odd song to keep rhythm.

It’s not that different from when seats are banged on
 
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you seem to be really against a drum. I think your second paragraph sums it up for me though. We’ve had a handful of games over the last few years with a really good atmosphere, in games where it should be anyway. This season in particular has been pretty poor.

If we could get to a scenario where everyone just sings and it was a traditional atmosphere I’d be all for that, but it’s just not going to happen. No home end, lack of singers together, prices .....

we have to try something different and change the culture. I’d much rather have drums, flags and all that, if it meant 90 minutes of singing. By the way drums don’t have to be used all game, just for the odd song to keep rhythm.

It’s not that different from when seats are banged on
The Liverpool v City game was at Anfield.

I’m really against a drum because anywhere I’ve been where there’s been a drum in the ground or when away fans have brought one to our place, by about the fifth minute I’ve had e-fucking-nough of that same fucking banging rhythm they all do. It’s simply annoying!

When you’re right next their home drum in the away section at Leicester, it’s probably the most annoying experience I’ve had.
 
you seem to be really against a drum. I think your second paragraph sums it up for me though. We’ve had a handful of games over the last few years with a really good atmosphere, in games where it should be anyway. This season in particular has been pretty poor.

If we could get to a scenario where everyone just sings and it was a traditional atmosphere I’d be all for that, but it’s just not going to happen. No home end, lack of singers together, prices .....

we have to try something different and change the culture. I’d much rather have drums, flags and all that, if it meant 90 minutes of singing. By the way drums don’t have to be used all game, just for the odd song to keep rhythm.

It’s not that different from when seats are banged on
Unless we sort out the layout / spread of home fans then drum / no drum will make no difference in my opinion. We've had some amazing atmospheres over the last few years, but they are few and far between. It can be done, but whilst we have different singing areas split between away fans, across tiers etc, its always going to be the same.

We have one last chance to get this right when we finally develop the north stand. If we balls that one up then i fear that will be our last chance.
 
Best away fans I’ve heard at the Etihad in recent years have been Atalanta who didn’t bring a drum and SheffUnited who didn’t bring a drum.

Best atmospheres I’ve been to in recent years have been City v Spurs in the CL and Liverpool v City and neither ground had a drum.

I’ve been to Palace three times and their atmosphere is shit. When you’re actually there it just sounds like a little section in the corner, the away fans make as much noise.
Yeah it's amazing what TV can do with the sound.

Turn it to 11 at Anfield, swamp & Selhurst.
 
The Liverpool v City game was at Anfield.

I’m really against a drum because anywhere I’ve been where there’s been a drum in the ground or when away fans have brought one to our place, by about the fifth minute I’ve had e-fucking-nough of that same fucking banging rhythm they all do. It’s simply annoying!

When you’re right next their home drum in the away section at Leicester, it’s probably the most annoying experience I’ve had.

so the best atmospheres you’ve heard/ been created have been by away fans and Liverpool? Doesn’t that just sum up the problem of how bad it’s got.

that’s part of why I think we have to do something different. I understand it might be annoying, but we don’t have to copy Leicester or some other team. We could just use it for the odd song, guardiola or another - So barely used at all. Too many of our songs are sung at lightening pace.

for me personally I want things like a megaphone used, flags most of the game first, but if it helps then so be it. Too many fans are embarrassed to sing, clap, make any noise at all as it is
 
Unless we sort out the layout / spread of home fans then drum / no drum will make no difference in my opinion. We've had some amazing atmospheres over the last few years, but they are few and far between. It can be done, but whilst we have different singing areas split between away fans, across tiers etc, its always going to be the same.

We have one last chance to get this right when we finally develop the north stand. If we balls that one up then i fear that will be our last chance.

100% agree. Above anything - drums, flags..... we need a proper home end. It’s the main thing we’ve been missing in our ground for years now.
 
Every time we have a good atmosphere shows we don’t need a drum. We just need to get more people up for the games more that aren’t big games.

One thing I’ve noticed is that loads of fans around the ground don’t know any of the newer songs we sing.

Because of the closed shop to away games so only the same small number get to go, the small singing section in SSL1, the lack of pubs around the ground... there aren’t enough people being exposed to enough of our new chants.

We need proper platforms to get these chants more widely spread.

SSL1 can be bouncing along to a new chant and only pockets of fans around the ground will know it.

Some great points in there. The explosion of the Boss nights have worked brilliantly for us. Great little dos where you can have a good old sing song and a bevvy. But with their popularity going through the roof, they’re doing them all over the world now. Jamie Webster and the lads were getting ready to tour Australia the other week. Whilst TAW & indeed the Boss nights aren’t for everyone, it’s hard to argue against the fact that it’s been a big factor in the almost united fan front at the moment. Say it again, it’s an absolute tap in for the right fans here.
 
Some great points in there. The explosion of the Boss nights have worked brilliantly for us. Great little dos where you can have a good old sing song and a bevvy. But with their popularity going through the roof, they’re doing them all over the world now. Jamie Webster and the lads were getting ready to tour Australia the other week. Whilst TAW & indeed the Boss nights aren’t for everyone, it’s hard to argue against the fact that it’s been a big factor in the almost united fan front at the moment. Say it again, it’s an absolute tap in for the right fans here.
Indeed, things like this would be ideal. Get a bloke on stage, loads of beers in and sing City songs sung for a few hours.

I can’t say I’d go often, but know loads would love it, especially the younger lads.

I also think we need a proper active YouTube channel for the singing group to get songs out there. I’ve just had a look on YouTube and, unless I’m looking at the wrong one, our 1894 Group’s channel has got two videos and 9 subscribers.
 
Indeed, things like this would be ideal. Get a bloke on stage, loads of beers in and sing City songs sung for a few hours.

I can’t say I’d go often, but know loads would love it, especially the younger lads.

I also think we need a proper active YouTube channel for the singing group to get songs out there. I’ve just had a look on YouTube and, unless I’m looking at the wrong one, our 1894 Group’s channel has got two videos and 9 subscribers.

In one there, it’s fantastic for the new generation of fans. The Boss lads have gone one step further in that they’ve started doing events for kids too. Ties the next generation in and and a brilliant way to maintain the next breed of matchgoers.
 

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