#9 | Gabriel Jesus - 2019/20 Performances

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Well, in terms of non penalty goals+assists per minute, it puts him 4th in the Premier League this season. Only Sergio, Kev and Bruno Fernandes above him.

So, just in the big league.

I prefer, "per what you should have" rather than "per minute".

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Think we're all forgetting one thing about tonight.


0 offsides.

10 year contract then. If he's mastered that there's no stopping him.

 

[Withnail]

As individuals I prefer Aguero to Jesus. However, I prefer the team when Jesus is up front. There, I said it.

No doubt Kun is a better player, but you can see why Pep loves Jesus especially when he plays like he did against Madrid.

 

[BlueTG]

How come he was credited with the assist for Bernardo, but Kev keeps getting deflected assists taken from him?

 

[mccity]

How come he was credited with the assist for Bernardo, but Kev keeps getting deflected assists taken from him?

It's literally because he touched it last in a way that's not classed as a deflection.

Fortunate for Jesus and obviously unfortunate for Kev.

 

[WallyA]

How come he was credited with the assist for Bernardo, but Kev keeps getting deflected assists taken from him?

https://streamja.com/wa1Pa

Look at the goal again (I was confused at first as well).

Jesus hustles through on Bernardo's shot, he gets shouldered off so he can't shoot, but he is such a warrior that he still got a pass off the ball to let Bernardo score it. Jesus makes that goal for Bernardo. Bernardo should have scored on his earlier shot though.

 

[mccity]

https://streamja.com/wa1Pa

Look at the goal again (I was confused at first as well).

Jesus hustles through on Bernardo's shot, he gets shouldered off so he can't shoot, but he is such a warrior that he still got a pass off the ball to let Bernardo score it. Jesus makes that goal for Bernardo. Bernardo should have scored on his earlier shot though.

Watching that it does look like he meant to lay it off. Well spotted!

 

[WallyA]

Watching that it does look like he meant to lay it off. Well spotted!

It's hard to see in the game, I had to look at the clip and go over it a few times. It's an assist made completely from effort and awareness of his teammate.

 

[mccity]

It's hard to see in the game, I had to look at the clip and go over it a few times. It's an assist made completely from effort and awareness of his teammate.

I didn't even notice it. I'd seen so many replays through the night and you can't see off of them his body movement after what he does. Turns out the live clip makes it a lot clearer! Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[BlueTG]

https://streamja.com/wa1Pa

Look at the goal again (I was confused at first as well).

Jesus hustles through on Bernardo's shot, he gets shouldered off so he can't shoot, but he is such a warrior that he still got a pass off the ball to let Bernardo score it. Jesus makes that goal for Bernardo. Bernardo should have scored on his earlier shot though.

Ahhh fair. Thought it came off the keeper or something at first.

 

[Ezzy]

The Claim:



The Evidence:



The Improvement:

 

[mikemcfc]

well Firmino's cut from the same cloth. Jesus has had a lot more chances comparatively than Mane for those chances, in fact before this weekend out of the top 20 goalscorers in the league Jesus was 3rd or 4th for number of chances despite his minutes, another 7 will only add to that. 1 goal, despite an otherwise really positive performance, sums up the problem with him. It should have been 4-0 at half-time given the chances and he should have been coming off with a hat-trick given the chances. 22 shots since the lockdown, 6 on target and 2 goals. At some point that has to start improving no matter what else he brings to the team.

you keep going on about these chances, half of them are crap and they only come as a second or third option when the defense is expecting it after a couple different greedier players have gone it alone and run out of ideas.

 

[mikemcfc]

Think we're all forgetting one thing about tonight.


0 offsides.

and i don't even care about the offsides, i want my striker playing on the edge, but what i want even more is that the selfish players see the space as fast as gabby does and give him the ball on the run.

 

[mikemcfc]

The issue is his weakness is so fundamental to the traditional striker. I worry about him as a Champions League regular striker; we're not going to be able to carve out 30 shots a game at the highest level of that competition and I don't see Jesus as someone who can make the most of limited service. He's obviously a very talented player but we'd have to adapt our system similar to Liverpool's in that we accept a striker playing quite deep.

No doubt Kun is a better player, but you can see why Pep loves Jesus especially when he plays like he did against Madrid.

I'm not worried in the least, Gabby's only getting started, he will be a giant for us if we can keep him.

 

[Kokonut1307]

Excellent movement and linkup play but atrocious at finishing. Nothing new.

 

[asahartford1]

As long as pep knows, it doesn't matter what some fans believe, same with Gundoghan

 

[domalino]

Ings plays for fucking Southampton. It's astonishing he should even be close. You can bump it up with cup stats all you want, it's 12 goals and 5 assists in the big league.

I don't understand why having fewer goals than Ings is a stick to beat Jesus with?

Aguero has fewer goals than Ings. Kane has fewer goals than Ings, Salah, Mané too. Danny Ings is having an exceptional season and has a chance at winning the golden boot.

 

[alexmcity]

I disagree with the often made point here that finishing is not something you can improve upon. There are plenty of examples of forwards who have become better goalscorers as they mature.

Sterling was very poor at times wrt his finishing. This season he is about to score 30 goals from open play. Vardy was a nothing striker when he was 25 y.o. Now he is about to win the Golden Boot.

Jesus will score plenty of goals. He has it in him to score 40 goals a season in his prime while helping his team-mates both offensively and defensively. Virtually all of his critics in this thread underestimate the importance of defending from the front.

Another thing that his critics don't seem to understand is how difficult it is to hit form and grow as a player when you are not a firm starter. Generally, Jesus is getting better when he plays several games in a row. He hasn't had the chance yet to play as a first choice striker for more than 2 months.

 

[Delphacito]

I don't understand why having fewer goals than Ings is a stick to beat Jesus with?

Aguero has fewer goals than Ings. Kane has fewer goals than Ings, Salah, Mané too. Danny Ings is having an exceptional season and has a chance at winning the golden boot.

Not to mention Ings probably plays 90 mins for all of the games. Also Ings has no other responsibility than to score. Jesus has to press like a madman, and then also create chances for others. It’s a thankless job.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

I don't understand why having fewer goals than Ings is a stick to beat Jesus with?

Aguero has fewer goals than Ings. Kane has fewer goals than Ings, Salah, Mané too. Danny Ings is having an exceptional season and has a chance at winning the golden boot.

It wasn't. I was asked to show someone else in England who had 20 goals in less time than Jesus, I did. Just demonstrating it wasn't something to laud Jesus for.