John Stones

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waspish said:
A run of games he is quality the problem since at city is he gets injured at the time he has been great for us.
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He isn’t getting a run of games with Laporte, Koulibaly and Ake ahead of him. And that’s not taking into account Fernandinho, Garcia and possibly even Tosin who’s currently training.

If Stones stays it’s to be as a 4/5th choice CB and we don’t need him for that role given the limited opportunities he will be afforded.
 
Firstly, I find it interesting so many of our fans want to keep him around until he get his affairs in order, like we haven’t waited long enough.

Secondly, no club in the league seems even remotely interested in signing him. Someone said a we have an offer of 15m?! Maybe Newcastle? I mean, isn’t that enough of a bad sign when pretty much all clubs seem to want to stay away, yet City, one of few clubs in the league capable of challenging for the Champions League, should be happy with him as an option? It doesn’t make any sense.

I know his wages could play a part here but I doubt that’s where the problem lies.

I have all respect for what John did for us but logic in this case just seems like it got thrown out the window.
 
skyblues said:
Firstly, I find it interesting so many of our fans want to keep him around until he get his affairs in order, like we haven’t waited long enough.

Secondly, no club in the league seems even remotely interested in signing him. Someone said a we have an offer of 15m?! Maybe Newcastle? I mean, isn’t that enough of a bad sign when pretty much all clubs seem to want to stay away, yet City, one of few clubs in the league capable of challenging for the Champions League, should be happy with him as an option? It doesn’t make any sense.

I know his wages could play a part here but I doubt that’s where the problem lies.

I have all respect for what John did for us but logic in this case just seems like it got thrown out the window.
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I would keep him around because he's better than Garcia, even if he played pissed after eating a pizza, with chips & he's better than pretty much anyone elses 4th choice cb.
 
charlie9872 said:
He isn’t getting a run of games with Laporte, Koulibaly and Ake ahead of him. And that’s not taking into account Fernandinho, Garcia and possibly even Tosin who’s currently training.

If Stones stays it’s to be as a 4/5th choice CB and we don’t need him for that role given the limited opportunities he will be afforded.
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Maybe my main point is he is a quality player when fit and has run of games in the side.
 
Neville Kneville said:
I would keep him around because he's better than Garcia, even if he played pissed after eating a pizza, with chips & he's better than pretty much anyone elses 4th choice cb.
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I think keep john, as you say better choice than anyone else's 4th choice, Eric cant be allowed to run his contract down,he has value to barca,he has euro's to play for so sell him
 
Neville Kneville said:
I would keep him around because he's better than Garcia, even if he played pissed after eating a pizza, with chips & he's better than pretty much anyone elses 4th choice cb.
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Sorry, but no he isn’t. Pep starts a 19 yo Garcia and 35 yo DM Fernandinho ahead of a fit Stones. Pep is not happy with him.

I think for Pep to feel a bit better about his transfer choices over the years in defence (considering he now has bought Stones, Laporte and Aké, plus another one coming in), is to cash in on Stones who was initially considered a long-term right-sided centreback.

Also remember what Pep said about Stones a few month ago: ”We’ll have a talk. I want what is best for him”.

It’s impossible to come to any other conclusion other than Stones being shipped off.
 
waspish said:
Maybe my main point is he is a quality player when fit and has run of games in the side.
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He hasn't been fit for 4 years and my point now is that he won't get that get the run of games required to get back into the groove of being a quality player.
 
skyblues said:
Sorry, but no he isn’t. Pep starts a 19 yo Garcia and 35 yo DM Fernandinho ahead of a fit Stones. Pep is not happy with him.

I think for Pep to feel a bit better about his transfer choices over the years in defence (considering he now has bought Stones, Laporte and Aké, plus another one coming in), is to cash in on Stones who was initially considered a long-term right-sided centreback.

Also remember what Pep said about Stones a few month ago: ”We’ll have a talk. I want what is best for him”.

It’s impossible to come to any other conclusion other than Stones being shipped off.
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Stones is much better than Garcia but I accept Pep is not happy with him, probably lifestyle who knows. I really do not get the fascination with Garcia I really don’t.
 
kaz7 said:
I think keep john, as you say better choice than anyone else's 4th choice, Eric cant be allowed to run his contract down,he has value to barca,he has euro's to play for so sell him
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It's not as if the Premier League is full of world class central defenders. Most teams, if you put the best bits of all their centre backs together, you still wouldn't have a top class one.

The problem with Stones is that he's unreliable as a main cb, not that he's total shit. We need to buy a proper cb & if Stones is willing to fight for his place, just use Stones as backup over the season.

If he does get his shit together then he becomes a challenger. Upto him.

If we don't get a cb & end up using him or Garcia as 1st choice, we will end up with Fernandinho there again.
 
come-on-barney said:
Stones is much better than Garcia but I accept Pep is not happy with him, probably lifestyle who knows. I really do not get the fascination with Garcia I really don’t.
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In what universe?

Garcia is a product of world famous talentpool La Masia academy. He’s a high quality defender for his age and he will only get better.

Garcia almost instantly made an impact when he started getting games in the league and played alongside Laporte. He barely made any mistakes and he was excellent against Liverpool. A really good centreback and levels above a John Stones who should be nearing his prime.

It might not be fun to hear because Garcia wants out and Stones wants to stay and fight for his place, but it’s the truth. The club was so disappointed to hear about him not wanting to extend. He would have been an amazing fourth choice.
 
skyblues said:
Sorry, but no he isn’t. Pep starts a 19 yo Garcia and 35 yo DM Fernandinho ahead of a fit Stones. Pep is not happy with him.

I think for Pep to feel a bit better about his transfer choices over the years in defence (considering he now has bought Stones, Laporte and Aké, plus another one coming in), is to cash in on Stones who was initially considered a long-term right-sided centreback.

Also remember what Pep said about Stones a few month ago: ”We’ll have a talk. I want what is best for him”.

It’s impossible to come to any other conclusion other than Stones being shipped off.
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Using Garcia is one of the worst managerial decisions we've seen for many years & if it was anyone other than Pep, nobody would be papering over just how shit it has been.

Stones is better & it's not even close.

Decent chance Garcia will finish Pep's City career if he plays regularly & maybe Laporte's too.
 
This thread is starting to get very raggish, people are so quick to slag a player off who has been having a tough time on an off the pitch. Whatever decision the club come to with regard to Stones I am fine with. But i wont forget his contribution to our success while has been here.
 
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