COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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mosssideblue said:
I keep reading on here about the vulnerable, but not many clear definitions as to whom they are.
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My personal thinking is anyone who falls into the category of being obviously at risk of death.

We have to restart the economy and normality,and that will unfortunately mean various degrees of suffering for a lot of people.Its a shit situation with no ideal answers or outcome.
 
Healdplace said:
Here is an update on the England hospital death numbers after five days for each date over the past four weeks

Wk // Total Cases // Daily Average // Totals with add ons since the five day cut off

14-20 Sep 102 (14.7) 112 (16)

21-27 Sep 170 (24.3) 182 (26)

28 - 4 Oct 254 (36.3) 278 (39.8)

5 -11 Oct 341 (48.8) 356 (50.9)


More than tripled over the three weeks since government was advised to have a circuit breaker.
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I don’t think they got past the caveat on the first page
 
FantasyIreland said:
My personal thinking is anyone who falls into the category of being obviously at risk of death.

We have to restart the economy and normality,and that will unfortunately mean various degrees of suffering for a lot of people.Its a shit situation with no ideal answers or outcome.
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There's nothing more shit that dying. Losing your job and livelihood is terrible for sure and I don't make light of it, but dying is worse.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I sense your frustration mate, and we all have frustration with this in some way or another. However, here is the age distribution of the COVID-19 deaths in the US up until earlier this month. (I couldn't find the UK data to hand, so this will have to do).

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So we lock up the 87 year olds. OK. What about those 75 and over? That would not have done anything to prevent the 44,000 deaths of people between 65 and 74. So we lock them up too. There's still another 40,000+ people under 45 who have died of this. That's 20% of the total. You'd probably have to include the 45 and overs if you wanted to make it "safe".

Where do you realistically draw the line?
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As i said,no ideal outcome or anything close.

As distressing as it is.......We just have to do what is best for the majority.
 
FantasyIreland said:
My personal thinking is anyone who falls into the category of being obviously at risk of death.

We have to restart the economy and normality,and that will unfortunately mean various degrees of suffering for a lot of people.Its a shit situation with no ideal answers or outcome.
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I agree it is a shit situation and there is no easy answers
 
Northern Ireland completes the bad news.

2 deaths (v 0 last week) v 1 two wks ago

1299 cases (v 1080 last week) v 934 two wks ago

Rolling 7 day total 6708 v 5272 v 2623 two wks ago

Of that 6708 there are 214 over 80 & 734 aged 60 - 79. Over 14% over 60.

Hospital patients 213 (up 12 in day) (v 132 last week) v 65 two wks ago

Ventilators 20 (up 3 in day) (v 10 last week) v 7 two wks ago.
 
Of Scottish infections announced today

162 are in people aged 65+
Including 39 in people aged 85+

52 are in children aged under 15
Including 19 in children aged under 5

224 in people aged 15-24

757 in people aged 25-64
 
Healdplace said:
Northern Ireland completes the bad news.

2 deaths (v 0 last week) v 1 two wks ago

1299 cases (v 1080 last week) v 934 two wks ago

Rolling 7 day total 6708 v 5272 v 2623 two wks ago

Of that 6708 there are 214 over 80 & 734 aged 60 - 79. Over 14% over 60.

Hospital patients 213 (up 12 in day) (v 132 last week) v 65 two wks ago

Ventilators 20 (up 3 in day) (v 10 last week) v 7 two wks ago.
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It just feels like we are sleep walking into another disaster, it's genuinely hard to not be political about the people running the country, but it's fucking reactive rather than proactive.
 
Of the 9 deaths announced in Scotland today

4 are people aged 85+
4 are people aged 75-84
1 is a person in the 25-44 range.
 
So UK hospital death numbers today are 98 - at least under 100 for first time in a few days.

Last week the number was 64. Which became 87 in the all settings later.

Cases for the three nations today (with England to come) total 3474 v 3092 last week. That at least is not a major rise week to week.

So a little good news.
 
Men from African, Caribbean and Bangladeshi ethnic backgrounds have higher rates of death involving coronavirus than any other ethnic group in England and Wales, new data shows.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said rates have exceeded 250 per 100,000 for those groups.

news.sky.com

Coronavirus: Black men have higher coronavirus death rate than anyone else in England and Wales

White men and women have the lowest coronavirus-mortality rates of any ethnic group, other than Chinese men.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

Lock all BAM people away ??
 
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