COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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cleavers said:
Can someone explain to me why rooney will have to miss three games (10 days) despite testing negative after coming into contact with a "friend" who has since tested positive.

I don't really understand some of these isolating rules, sometimes it's 7, then 10, and quarantine 14 days, why are they different ?
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If you have the disease it takes 10 days or less to stop being infectious so that is the length of time to self isolate.
If you have been in contact the incubation period may be up to 14 days so that is how long you are told to self isolate , unless you develop Covid in which case you self isolate for 10 days from then which may be longer or shorter than the 14 days.
 
Len Rum said:
Valance now saying effective vacine unlikely before spring.
Once again mixed messaging from the experts.
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Because the head of the wellcome trust said first quarter , the rest is just noise , people are jumping on when the vaccine is ready and not when it is rolled out , the scientist have all said next year from the start barr one or two
 
Cityfan said:
If you have the disease it takes 10 days or less to stop being infectious so that is the length of time to self isolate.
If you have been in contact the incubation period may be up to 14 days so that is how long you are told to self isolate , unless you develop Covid in which case you self isolate for 10 days from then which may be longer or shorter than the 14 days.
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Thanks for helping clear that up, and failing ;-)

It's all so simple eh ?
 
Len Rum said:
Unless as you say tier 1 is not enough, therefore infections might rise and you want to nip it in the bud.
By no means an expert, just trying to make sense of it.
After all this is what SAGE have recommended with their circuit breaker.
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SAGE aren't interested in the economy.
After tier 1 there is tier 2 to try before total lockdown.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
Awful charts. What were you thinking with the thematic overlay. I wouldn't bother looking at this data either as it's very poor quality that doesn't stack up to totals. Unfortunately the only people who can do anything with the data anymore is SAGE and PHE. Anything produced from the open data world is compromised
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Doesn't stack up to totals? Please explain?
 
Ireland going into tier three lockdown from wed , for six weeks , england should just get on and do it instead of tinkering , sort the money out and do it

Meanwhile burnham is stalling too much , he has dugged his heels in to the detrement of you guys health
 
Other highlights today:

Liverpool was worst today adding 478 cases and becoming the second place to enter the 3000 club by taking its pop score up to 3024. Oldham likely to join it there in a day or two.

The only other place to beat Liverpool there is neighbour Knowsley that added 175 cases (huge for a borough this small to add 126 to its pop score (biggest jump today) to 3279 Way in front.

The three near neighbouring boroughs of Liverpool/Knowsley/Wigan are in a big mess right now. With 929 of the 18,804 UK cases added between them today.

Leicester cases have also started to accelerate back up to where they were when they were the first to go into lockdown alone in June. 166 added today. Most in weeks. But the once miles ahead in the Pop score race for months on end city is now not in the top 20 in the UK with a very modest 2498 - four boroughs in GM alone are now worse than that former basket case. So it can be done.

Blackburn had a bad day too equalling Knowsley's record 126 Pop Score rise to take it to 2972 and certain to be the next into the 3000 club tomorrow. It added 188 cases.

Bradford added 312 (down on yesterday's 389) And Birmingham had 343 - exactly the same as yesterday. How the Midlands keep matching numbers day to day so often is a little mystery I mentioned earlier in the regional scoreboard there). It happens often there.

Torridge in the South West at 180 is the lowest pop score. None seem to be left below 100 and the sub 1000s are disappearing by several a week.
 
grunge said:
I was thinking about our track and trace system yesterday. and how its mostly pointless as we only test symptomatic cases. if everyone who got an alert got tested then we would be catching the asymptomatic cases too and would really be able to block the chain of infection.

the scenario I was thinking of.

Person A, gets the virus, they are infectious for 2-3 days before symptoms, then it takes 2/3 days or so for the test and positive to come back. thats 4/6 days window where they could have infected someone. they put there test into the app and everyone that they came in contact with gets the alert. they infected person B in this time.

Person B. was close to person A early on. they get there alert and do the right thing, they isolate. but at this time they have actually been infectious for 4 or so days and Manage to infect person C. But Person B never get symptoms so never gets a test so Person C goes about there business without having a clue they have been near an infected person.

if Person C is asymptomatic too then thats close to 2 weeks of them spreading it without a clue.

Until we fill that hole in the track and trace system then its like boxing with 1 arm tied behind out backs.

this isn't taking into consideration that loads of people just ignore it mind you, thats a whole other issue.
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Well we should instruct all contacts to be tested but top down management that the Civil Service loves doesn't work when it comes to Track and Trace. It should all be done at a local authority level.
 
artfuldodger said:
Why are Ireland having such a hard time?
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Like the UK, a lot of people couldn't give a flying fuck and aren't complying with masks, social distancing, habitual hand washing etc etc. It's all well and good blaming those nasty government types. But whatever happened to individual accountability, being responsible for your own actions, looking at the bigger picture and thinking of others? We have a policy of wearing face masks where I work, which 90% are complying with. But there's some that just won't wear them. And there's no convincing them.
 
kaz7 said:
Ireland going into tier three lockdown from wed , for six weeks , england should just get on and do it instead of tinkering , sort the money out and do it

Meanwhile burnham is stalling too much , he has dugged his heels in to the detrement of you guys health
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Average of 2 days’ per day.

will long term effects of lockdown cost more than those 2 lives’ per day?
 
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