COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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England hospital data today

Patients up from 5828 to 6018 (it was 4150 a week ago)

Ventilators up from 559 to 571 (it was 468 a week ago)

Smaller increases today.
 
Matt Hancock is making a statement in the Commons
The health secretary says the peril of the pandemic has "no short term quick fix," and calls for ingenuity and commitment from all.
"This fight is not over," he said, and the virus continues to spread, with cases and deaths rising.
"Across the UK, the number of deaths have doubled over a fortnight," he said.
He said we have two things to our advantage in this second wave - it is more regional and we know much more about the virus and how it spreads.
The best way we can keep NHS treatments going is to "keep the virus under control," he said.
If you are asked to go to hospital, it is safer to go to hospital than not to, Mr Hancock told MPs.
The number of deaths will increase if cases continues to increase, hence the need for the recent government action, he said.
He said the government is making sure that hospitals have blue or green zones - i.e. essentially COVID-free zones.
The rises in number of cases in over 60s "gives me a lot of cause for concern," he said, but the "impact is not confined to these groups" and can target anyone from any background.
He said he has met people with long-term COVID effects in their 20s that cannot work and have been "sapped of energy".
Mr Hancock said long-COVID clinics are currently being set up across the country. In some cases, people have no symptoms of COVID then find they have "months and months and fatigue, brain fog and muscle pain," he tells the House.
He said it is estimated that 8% of the population has had COVID-19 and said daily testing capacity is now more than 370,000
 
Regionally:

London patients up from 555 to 575 (was 397 a week ago) Ventilators up from 87 to 89 (was 77 a wk ago)

Midlands patients up from 1027 to 1085 (was 685 a week ago) Ventilatrs up from 109 to 122 (was 96 a wk aho)

North East/Yorkshire patients up from 1401 to 1459 (was 1059 a wk ago) Ventilators DOWN from 113 to 109 (was 116 a wk ago) So down on a week ago too.

But North West had a good day today.
 
Seen the state of Valance’s graphs with American dates on them (e.g. 09/23/2020)?
 
What I would like to see is someone explain to the people of Greater Manchester what the last 3 months have been for and why the greater hardships they are being asked to go through for however many months it is then why will THESE (what look like modest) changes make the difference when the past 3 months seem only to have helped numbers go through the roof?

Is there ANY evidence that the restrictions in GM up to now have saved any lives or cut the numbers that would have been tested positive anyway?

Because I think that conversation needs to be had if this is all speculative.

I doubt the people of Wigan think that weeks of restrictions have in any way worked.

The question nobody seems to be asking is - if not, then why not? And why will it now be different under the new rules? And if so how?

That kind of honesty needs to be aired as I fear some think these are just doing something because something clearly has to be done and not because we are confident they will work.

Is GM a petri dish as Andy Burnham says? Or being shown the way to escape a bad second wave? Or just being used so it looks like the government is reacting to control the uncontrollable?

People will rally together and forgive a lot if they believe in what they are being asked to do but they rarely forgive dishonesty at their expense.
So many people are not giving a shit though. They are NOT, repeat NOT rallying together for the common good.
 
Stoke-on-Trent, Coventry and Slough will move into coronavirus Tier 2 restrictions - and discussions are under way on Warrington being placed into Tier 3.


Apparently the Red Wall Stokies asked to go into Stage 2.
Probably because business is so shit it's better to have restrictions and get some cash from Rishi!
Quite a few more regions might be thinking the same thing.
 
Agree about the Tier 3 nonsense,far too many aren't taking it seriously and carrying on as normal.

We came out of the proper lockdown far too soon,and that isn't hindsight.
If people don't follow tier 3 guidance than what makes you think they will follow total lockdown guidance. Judging by the types I have seen not folliwing hands/face/space guidance they will ignore that too.
 
Andy Burnham was on local BBC News at lunchtime having heard what Rishi was doing and saying that was what he asked for last week during the 'negotiations' but was told a flat no. Now it is being presented as a government plan to help.

Not taking sides. No idea who is right.

The BBC said the full interview will be on this evening's Look North West.
He is certainly making a point that Greater Manchester has been in tier 2 for 12 weeks without support. Then within 5 days of London being in the same boat, there's a sudden need to support businesses.
 
If people don't follow tier 3 guidance than what makes you think they will follow total lockdown guidance. Judging by the types I have seen not folliwing hands/face/space guidance they will ignore that too.
I’d agree with that. Some of those OAPs just will not be told...
 
If a load of people you know were planning to go out this weekend. More than 6 of them and all from different households. Completely disregarding the rules and skirting round the restrictions... would you report them?

Asking for a friend?
 
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