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grunge said:
While I do think they played it down.

When you actually look at those there is no evidence in most of them.

Cremation numbers are from a un published ( it was a pre publish upload ) , non peer reviewed paper from 2 people who have no history of releasing papers.

The majority is coming from the US leadership who are desperate to divert blame from themselves, and add ammo to the trade war. and provide no evidence.

The one where they changed definition did result in a case / death spike when they changed it.
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GM scoreboard is a little down from 2165 yesterday to 2034 today but over 2000 all but one day in past week, Not much sign of serious progress. 47% of the NW total - it has been round there the past few days and was in the mid/late 30s when Merseyside was having its problems.

GM is certainly the focus again though some Merseyside numbers up today as well.

Manchester fell a lot today, Wigan rose again to over 300. Otherwise numbers were much of a muchnessl

But we did lose as expected the final borough with a sub 2000 Pop Score with Stockport spending just 22 days going from 1000 to 2000 after taking the entire 7 months + of the pandemic before that and the whole first wave getting from 0 to 1000.

Sadly typical of how far GM has fallen as you can say the same (and worse) about almost everywhere in the North West these days.
 
Healdplace said:
Those cases are down (first time under 20K since Monday) but the deaths up on the hospital deaths by quite a lot (61 added to England's 76 in hospital). Looks like the other settings deaths (eg care homes) are starting to rise quite a bit too.
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Hopefully, the number of positive cases is starting to decline but I fear some peole will have been put off going for tests with it pissing it down on Friday and Saturday.
 
Will post the full GM later but here are key points from around the UK.

Rossendale had the highest Pop score rise of the day going from 2480 to 2591 by adding 79 cases - the numbers seem small but this is a small valley trapped between Burnley/Blackburn and Oldham/Rochdale and had been in the first wave almost Covid free.

Warrington was up to to 152 - double what it was a few days ago. Yet they are waiting four more days before it goes into Tier 3.

Wirral was up too as was Knowsley to its highest for some days taking its pop score up to 3789 and heading for the unimaginable 4000s.

Though Blackburn might give it a race as its Pop score almost matched neighbour Rossendale with a rise of 109 moving from 3492, missing out the entire 3500s and making 3601.

Liverpool though was down again and is 150/200 below where it was pre Tier 3. Below Manchester again today even though Manchester fell significantly today.

In fact Liverpool was today below Wigan too which sadly says a lot about the huge problems Wigan has.

Nottingham has been falling in the past week a lot too amd was sub 200 today for the first time in a while.

Leicester had a better day but is still high at 174 but in context the city that in wave one was far ahead of the field as the only one with a Pop score in the 2000s for many weeks is now over 1000 points on that measure below Knowsley!

Bradford had its best day in a while today and is about half where it was a week ago.

Birmingham too had a really good day today - though it became the first place to have 20,000 cases of Covid in total. Biut its case number today was sub 300.

This all means that the two worst numbers were both in Greater Manchester today. Manchester and Wigan.

Not a great note to end on, sadly.
 
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Manchester 350 - down from 451. Total cases 17,876. Weekly 2795. Pop score up 63 to enter the 3200 club at 3233.Weekly Pop 505.

Wigan 315 - up from 284. Total cases 8794. Weekly 2064 (over 2000 in a town that used to have about 20 cases in a week - how did this 100x uptick happen?) Pop score up 96 - most in GM in a while to enter the 2600 club at 2676. Weekly Pop 628.

Oldham 219 - down from 243. Total cases 8100. Weekly 1527. Pop Score up 92 to be the first in GM into the 3400 club at 3416. Weekly Pop 644.

Salford 207 - down from 223. Total cases 7284. Weekly 1529. Pop score up 80 to enter 2800 club at 2814. Weekly Pop 591.

Bolton 174 - down from 212. Total cases 8945. Weekly 1614. Pop score up 61 to enter 3100 club at 3111. Weekly Pop 562.

Tameside 164 - up from 163. Total cases 6009. Weekly 1102. Pop score up 72 to enter the 2600 club at 2653. Weekly Pop 486.

Stockport 161 - down from 163. Total cases 5955. Weekly 1106. Pop score up 54 (lowest in GM today) to finally end any GM borough being in the 1000s - and enter the 2000 club at 2029. Though increased lead over Trafford as best in GM to 241. Weekly Pop 376.

Rochdale 158 - up from 150. Total cases 7074. Weekly 1290. Pop score up 71 to 3181. Weekly Pop 580.

Trafford 158 - down from 170. Total cases 5387. Weekly 1022. Pop score up 67 to 2270. Weekly Pop 431.

Bury 133 - up from 106. Total cases 5470. Weekly 977. Best in GM and only one of the boroughs now left with less than 1000 cases a week. For now. Pop score up 70 to enter the 2800 club at 2864. Weekly Pop 511.
 
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Healdplace said:
Will post the full GM later but here are key points from around the UK.

Rossendale had the highest Pop score rise of the day going from 2480 to 2591 by adding 79 cases - the numbers seem small but this is a small valley trapped between Burnley/Blackburn and Oldham/Rochdale and had been in the first wave almost Covid free.

Warrington was up to to 152 - double what it was a few days ago. Yet they are waiting four more days before it goes into Tier 3.

Wirral was up too as was Knowsley to its highest for some days taking its pop score up to 3789 and heading for the unimaginable 4000s.

Though Blackburn might give it a race as its Pop score almost matched neighbour Rossendale with a rise of 109 moving from 3492, missing out the entire 3500s and making 3601.

Liverpool though was down again and is 150/200 below where it was pre Tier 3. Below Manchester again today even though Manchester fell significantly today.

In fact Liverpool was today below Wigan too which sadly says a lot about the huge problems Wigan has.

Nottingham has been falling in the past week a lot too amd was sub 200 today for the first time in a while.

Leicester had a better day but is still high at 174 but in context the city that in wave one was far ahead of the field as the only one with a Pop score in the 2000s for many weeks is now over 1000 points on that measure below Knowsley!

Bradford had its best day in a while today and is about half where it was a week ago.

Birmingham too had a really good day today - though it became the first place to have 20,000 cases of Covid in total. Biut its case number today was sub 300.

This all means that the two worst numbers were both in Greater Manchester today. Manchester and Wigan.

Not a great note to end on, sadly.
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Birmingham is a huge LA though. I really don't know how it was created at such the size it is i.e. - twice tge size of Manchester
 
BlueAnorak said:
Birmingham is a huge LA though. I really don't know how it was created at such the size it is i.e. - twice tge size of Manchester
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Probably for that reason.
To be twice the size as Manchester.
At least in pop figures. Manchester ‘physically’ appears much bigger (and Liverpool has a much bigger footprints iirc than Birmingham).
 
True_Blue69 said:
If being told that being fat makes you more susceptible during the first wave didn't make you eat less and start exercising, then this should.

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Preliminary evidence suggests that SARS-CoV-2 infections linger for about five days longer in people who are obese than in those who are lean, says endocrinologist Daniel Drucker of the Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto, Canada. “That would imply that these people are having trouble clearing the infection,” he says. “They may have trouble mounting normal viral defences.”

Some are unconvinced that obesity will blunt the efficacy of vaccines. Drucker notes that the studies on influenza vaccines were relatively small. “It’s certainly a reasonable hypothesis,” he says. “But I don’t think that we can look at influenza as a clear example.”

Above link
Comparing it to flu when we know covid behaves very differently
 
True_Blue69 said:
If being told that being fat makes you more susceptible during the first wave didn't make you eat less and start exercising, then this should.

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this is where the "fat shaming", "all body types are beautiful" facade we've had to put up with alongside so many other nonsensical ideological entitlements just needs to be put in the bin post Covid with a return to common decency, self respect and personal responsibility. People should have the help and support they need to go on intermittent fasting and lower sugar/carb dietary programmes which are monitored, exercise regimes that are tailored to their current health situation and it can be funded by taxing unhealthy foods more heavily as they need to go back to being treats, and we need to put an end to industry lobbies dictating policy over our public health crisis. Healthy lifestyle culture and education should be all over news, the Beeb, social media as government backed policy. We do need to change and that's me included.
 
3rd day on the bounce that my LA has had case numbers around 170. Still there is a bit of a catch up on tests mon and tue.
 
kaz7 said:
Preliminary evidence suggests that SARS-CoV-2 infections linger for about five days longer in people who are obese than in those who are lean, says endocrinologist Daniel Drucker of the Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto, Canada. “That would imply that these people are having trouble clearing the infection,” he says. “They may have trouble mounting normal viral defences.”

Some are unconvinced that obesity will blunt the efficacy of vaccines. Drucker notes that the studies on influenza vaccines were relatively small. “It’s certainly a reasonable hypothesis,” he says. “But I don’t think that we can look at influenza as a clear example.”

Above link
Comparing it to flu when we know covid behaves very differently
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The immune system doesn't though. We have a fairly linear response to fighting disease and if it doesn't work we're overwhelmed.
 
ganganvince said:

Spain declares state of emergency: Night-time curfews across nation- Canary Islands exempt | World | News | Express.co.uk

THE SPANISH government has declared a new state of emergency, with restrictions on mobility and a 11pm to 6am curfew across the whole country.
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I find this a bit bizzare. How would taking the dog for a walk or getting up early to go for a run or to the gym at 0530 be a risk? There's literally no one else about. Not sure an 11pm to 6am curfew would have any difference at all.
 
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