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Psychedelic Casual said:
I half joked a few years ago that we needed something like this to get rid of a couple of billion people.

The world was coping alright with about 5 billion, but 7 billion is too much and projected figures of 9 billion in a few years is ridiculous.

Our carbon footprints are far too large to have anymore than about 5 billion people on this planet.

Take away the human feelings from this and look at the planet, this pandemic hasn’t killed enough people, so we will need to find a different way to reduce the population of the planet.

A big fuck off war would be one way but there must be a better way!
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We should hold a raffle and if your number is called then you get to help save the world by being sent on your way to the great beyond.
I’d happily take part. This planet will be ruined beyond repair in the next 100 or so years.
 
inbetween said:
I agree, I just don't think the extent of things there are as bad as here or anywhere else in Europe/US. The only reason why is because the actions they are taking have been fast and have proven to be extremely successful (although in parts brutal).

There is still an argument that prolonging the pandemic is worse than not doing, China have moved to end it ASAP whereas we haven't. Here we are prolonging it because we are unwilling to make short-term sacrifices and as a result only a vaccine will save us. We may as well not bother with track and trace for example because it doesn't work whilst the population has a choice in whether to even use it.

Many medical journals and the WHO agree:


“In China, you have a combination of a population that takes respiratory infections seriously and is willing to adopt non-pharmaceutical interventions, with a government that can put bigger constraints on individual freedoms than would be considered acceptable in most Western countries. Commitment to the greater good is engrained in the culture; there is not the hyper-individualism that characterises parts of the USA, and has driven most of the resistance to the countermeasures against the coronavirus.”
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They also have a government that will weld you in your flat if they deem necessary, somehow I don’t see that happening here
 
Those cases are down (first time under 20K since Monday) but the deaths up on the hospital deaths by quite a lot (61 added to England's 76 in hospital). Looks like the other settings deaths (eg care homes) are starting to rise quite a bit too.
 
mackenzie said:
Does that indicate a possible act of insurance for the employer?
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It might do I suppose from the employer’s perspective. I don’t know.

For frontline staff, anybodybreasonably carrying out their duties should be be covered by the NHS Indemnity for insurance purposes. Some people at risk from Ambulance chasers might take out extra insurance, like paramedics, IIRC
 
Tim of the Oak said:
It might do I suppose from the employer’s perspective. I don’t know.

For frontline staff, anybodybreasonably carrying out their duties should be be covered by the NHS Indemnity for insurance purposes. Some people at risk from Ambulance chasers might take out extra insurance, like paramedics, IIRC
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Only asking as ours are doing risk assessments that they don't normally do. Where you are asked if you agree to the conclusion.
Don't trust them as far as I can throw them, but one thing I do know...this isn't for my benefit as such
 
He said: "Teams are looking at what we can do around those isolation periods. This will be scientifically-led. It is understood that teams are looking at cutting the current 14-day period of isolation for contacts of those infected with the virus to between seven and 10 days.

news.sky.com

Coronavirus: Self-isolation for people who come into contact with positive COVID-19 cases could be reduced

The move comes amid growing dissatisfaction with the performance of the system from ministers and MPs.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

Not for those testing positive
 
England hospital data is sadly not good either, Two days again.

Patients rose from 6518 Friday to 6823 Saturday to 7225 today. It was 4974 last Sunday - and that is week to week is a rise of over 30%.

707 in two days is a lot. Last time it was this high was 19 May - a jump since Friday back towards the mid April peak of six days this weekend. Revealing it was a lot going in.

Though the peak number in April was just over 17,000 so we are not even half way there yet.



Ventilators too quite a rise

From 601 Friday to 631 Saturday and 662 today. That 10% rise this weekend is bigger than usual too.

It was 503 last Sunday so a 159 rise - a little up at about 26%.

But last time there were 662 on ventilators was 28 May so the jump back towards the April peak is only 3 days over the weekend - half that of the patient numbers.

But bear in mind there were 2881 on ventilators at the peak so we are significantly less as a % of that total as yet than in the patient numbers. Less than a quarter of the peak of wave one in ventilators versus over 40% of the April peak in patients.

Due, as we know, to reduced use of these and treatments saving lives before they are needed.
 
Hedge fund managers and city executives to be added to the list of exemptions to quarantine.

one rule for us...
 
Regional hospital data: Patients and Ventilators Fri v Sat v Today (last Sunday in brackets)

London Patients 625 - 641 - 674 (498) ///// Ventilators 98 - 97 - 110 (86)

Midlands Patients 1213 - 1280 - 1344 (853) ///// Ventilators 142 - 149 - 153 (88)

NE & Yorks Patients 1595 - 1685 - 1806 (1231) //// Ventilators 105- 113 - 128 (113)

And North West


Patients 2130 - 2192 - 2309 (1785) Last time there were this many in NW hospitals with Covid was 24 April. That is EIGHT days back towards the peak over this weekend showing how close to being back at mid April patient numbers we now are.

2890 on 13 April was the most Covid patients in NW hospitals in the first wave.

We appear to be just days away from exceding that number. And are at 80% of it right now. By some margin the highest of any region in the UK heading towards that.


Ventilators 190 - 203 - 200 (161). Last time there were this many on ventilators in NW was 5 May - only 2 days back from where we were Friday. At the peak on 15 April there were 350 on Ventilators so we are now at about 58%. Over half way there but - compared with patient numbers - well below the % of ventilated patients reached in the first wave.
 
There are approximately 9200 in hospital with Covid across the UK.

At the peak in April there were just over 19,000.

There are about 815 on ventilators with Covid across the UK.

At the peak in April there were 3100 or so UK wide - so we are happily well below that limit.

But the NW is twice as close to it as other regions.
 
Healdplace said:
There are approximately 9200 in hospital with Covid across the UK.

At the peak in April there were just over 19,000.

There are about 815 on ventilators with Covid across the UK.

At the peak in April there were 3100 or so UK wide - so we are happily well below that limit.

But the NW is twice as close to it as other regions.
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We are heading into winter but it has not even got going yet , the acelerating numbers are scary
 
Regional scoreboard - drops everywhere but NW is still struggling the worst despite the fall in cases over the UK today.

London 1791 - down from 2221

Midlands 1439 - lowest for a week and down from 2052

North East 1048 - huge fall from yesterdays 2427 to lowest for a week.

Yorkshire 2380 - significant fall from 3261.

North West is down to 4293 - but only from 4603 - so sadly not much of the drop in cases across the UK were in the NW it would seem. We were actually lower just 48 hours ago.
 
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