COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Fact is all borders should have been closed and all holidays abroad cancelled.
They weren’t and people were being encouraged to fly away and therefore decided that it was a risk worth taking.
That’s the government’s in charge who are at fault, not the man in the street.
 
Pablo1 said:
Fact is all borders should have been closed and all holidays abroad cancelled.
They weren’t and people were being encouraged to fly away and therefore decided that it was a risk worth taking.
That’s the government’s in charge who are at fault, not the man in the street.
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it's both, people have personal responsibility.
 
kaz7 said:
Because going in a sealed tin can with 300 people you are not related to and to a covid hotspot, during the height of a pandemic is not going to spread the virus is it , the height of selfish stupidity

NOBODY makes you read anything you dont want to
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‘The science’ says that the risk of transmission of the virus on an aircraft is incredibly small, primarily due to seating layout, mask usage and vertical downward airflow / HEPA filters.
The environmental control system used in commercial aircraft seems to restrict the spread of airborne pathogens, and the perceived risk is greater than the actual risk. (The Lancet)
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www.iata.org

Research Points to Low Risk for COVID-19 Transmission Inflight

IATA demonstrated the low incidence of inflight COVID-19 transmission with an updated tally of published cases.
www.iata.org www.iata.org

www.nationalgeographic.com

How clean is the air on planes?

High-tech filters and low-tech masks: How technology and personal responsibility might make flying safer than you think.
www.nationalgeographic.com www.nationalgeographic.com

Transmission of infectious diseases during commercial air travel - PMC

Because of the increasing ease and affordability of air travel and mobility of people, airborne, food-borne, vector-borne, and zoonotic infectious diseases transmitted during commercial air travel are an important public health issue. Heightened ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

At the time Spain was opened, it was not seen as a hotspot I guess. The world can’t stop travelling indefinitely so a robust testing strategy has to be the way forward imo
 
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Regional hospital data:

Patients //// Ventilators

London DOWN 15 to 832 (last Fri 544) //// Up 7 to 131 (last Fri 80)

Midlands UP 40 to 1745 (last Fri 1161) //// DOWN 12 to 192 (last Fri 132)

North East/Yorks UP 14 to 2172 (last Fri 1536) //// UP 7 to 157 (last Fri 112)

So modest changes there.

But NW was not as good as yesterday today though it was not a bad day here either:

Patients up 67 to 2575 (last Fri 1956) That is just 168 increase in the past 3 days and still over 300 off the high point of the first wave that the NW had in April - which at past rate of increase looked certain to have occurred by now a week ago.

Ventilators up 3 to 213 (last Fri 178). Smallest regional week to week rise and well off the 350 at the peak of the April wave. It is actually 2 less than it was 3 days ago.

Some room for optimism here.
 
Pablo1 said:
Fact is all borders should have been closed and all holidays abroad cancelled.
They weren’t and people were being encouraged to fly away and therefore decided that it was a risk worth taking.
That’s the government’s in charge who are at fault, not the man in the street.
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Would they have jumped off a cliff if boris said it was ok , it is common sense , i get sick of the bleating from people who dont want to interupt their lives for a likkle old virus which is just flu....
 
davealvers said:
‘The science’ says that the risk of transmission of the virus on an aircraft is incredibly small, primarily due to seating layout, mask usage and vertical downward airflow / HEPA filters.


www.iata.org

Research Points to Low Risk for COVID-19 Transmission Inflight

IATA demonstrated the low incidence of inflight COVID-19 transmission with an updated tally of published cases.
www.iata.org www.iata.org

www.nationalgeographic.com

How clean is the air on planes?

High-tech filters and low-tech masks: How technology and personal responsibility might make flying safer than you think.
www.nationalgeographic.com www.nationalgeographic.com

Transmission of infectious diseases during commercial air travel - PMC

Because of the increasing ease and affordability of air travel and mobility of people, airborne, food-borne, vector-borne, and zoonotic infectious diseases transmitted during commercial air travel are an important public health issue. Heightened ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Did we know that then ?
 
kaz7 said:
Would they have jumped off a cliff if boris said it was ok , it is common sense , i get sick of the bleating from people who dont want to interupt their lives for a likkle old virus which is just flu....
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You know, I posted almost the same thing as this on Wednesday. And a different poster disagreed with me.
Then you liked his post...... go figure.


flip flop flippity flop
 
grunge said:
From tests on people that had Sars1 the ones they tested they still have immunity now. which is a good sign for this one.
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Maybe. Hopefully. No idea whether Sars1 is anything like this one. We seem to have zero immunity from common colds and they are a coronavirus.
 
M18CTID said:
Yep. I can kind of see an argument that if a vaccine doesn’t materialise for several years for example, then obviously we will have to live alongside the virus and some kind of herd immunity may well be the only way to get on top of it long-term but we can’t afford to just “let it rip” as it will lead to a way higher death rate than we’re seeing now.

Regarding the 0.5% mortality rate, I had a conspiracy theorist mate tell me that the low mortality rate equates to this virus being a hoax as there are 23 other bigger killers in the UK in terms of mortality rates and as such the measures being taken by countries worldwide are a hysterical overreaction. The trouble with the tin-foil hat wearing brigade lobbing stats like that around is that their arguments don’t even make it to first base when you consider just how easy it is to catch Covid-19 compared to all those other killers. Rabies has the highest mortality rate on earth - 99.9% - but hardly any fucker ever gets it, whereas Covid-19 has killed many more people than rabies ever will despite having a much lower mortality rate.
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Spot on. Every time a tin foil hat wearer tells me more people die from putting their fingers in the toaster (or any other random and irrelevant stat) I say to them "and when was the last time such deaths grew exponentially and threatened to overwhelm health services? Let alone to do so after national lockdowns, social distancing and what have you???
 
davealvers said:
‘The science’ says that the risk of transmission of the virus on an aircraft is incredibly small, primarily due to seating layout, mask usage and vertical downward airflow / HEPA filters.
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'The politicians' tell the scientists to STFU or we'll destroy industry xyz if we close it down.

THAT's the reason planes are still flying.
 
The numbers also show there has been an increase in cases in all age groups over the past two weeks, with older teenagers and young adults having the highest current rates.
Rates appear to be steeply increasing among secondary school children.

news.sky.com

Coronavirus: More than 560,000 people had COVID-19 in England last week - ONS

The numbers show older teenagers and young adults had the highest infection rates as cases increase across the UK.
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