Political relations between UK-EU

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MillionMilesAway said:
I think the Johnson there is Gary Johnson, an American Libertarian.

That's not to say that Johnson or the current Conservative party isn't put somewhere close to the edge of right on other compasses.
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Yeah that’s a good point, it’s not actually Boris, the graph is older than that.

He’d be somewhere just in the blue, right of the centre likely.

Hannan is very much purple, to the right, also.
 
Ban-jani said:
You’re a complete idiot if you believe the at last bit.

It’s absolutely wrong on all levels.

It’s like saying liberals like you are communists who haven’t come out of the closet.

Free trade has absolutely nothing to do with fascism.

Considering how much time some of you spend in this sub forum , there’s a lot of uneducated people.
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He does. That's what's frightening.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Back in the Summer I told the misery merchants to wake up the next day, turn on their computers and look for positives about Brexit. I thought it would do their mental health some good because their obsession with the negatives that they trawl the internet or their Twitter echo chambers for must be doing their general mood no good whatsoever.

Bob replied to that and said something along the lines of “it’s the Leavers role to post positive news about Brexit, it’s my role is to take the piss.”

So he’s not even doing it in good faith. He’s on the WUM. He isn’t here for anything but to oppose anything about Brexit, and he’s not in his own.

It’s just more of this disease of causing divisions in society.
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Yeah, that sounds like me, I enjoy taking the piss out of stupidity. Very relaxing, therapeutic even.

In my defence, it would help if people would stop posting so much stupid to smack around, but people do, so I kind of feel obligated.

I’m thinking of getting my contributions crowd funded. What do you reckon? I can do playful, witty, sarky, mean, withering (I do a good wither), or various combos.*

Just putting it out there.

*This post I would categorise as ‘playful’.
 
domalino said:
As much as I despise the man I'm a little bit skeptical of any graph that puts Boris Johnson more right wing than Hitler.
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That’s because there’s a lack of understanding that politics isn’t linear, it’s probably not even 2D, it’s probably more accurate to show the political scale in a cube.

But people still put people or ideals within politics on a piece of string and can’t understand graphs like Ban’s.
 
Ban-jani said:
You’re a complete idiot if you believe the at last bit.

It’s absolutely wrong on all levels.

It’s like saying liberals like you are communists who haven’t come out of the closet.

Free trade has absolutely nothing to do with fascism.

Considering how much time some of you spend in this sub forum , there’s a lot of uneducated people.
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Odd that self proclaimed libertarians support the fascist that is Trump. Here’s the Twitter page of the woman that was shot in the US Capitol as an example.
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Ban-jani said:
Yeah that’s a good point, it’s not actually Boris, the graph is older than that.

He’d be somewhere just in the blue, right of the centre likely.

Hannan is very much purple, to the right, also.
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The party in 2019 got a bit of blue in there:

Johnson appears on this one (not sure why you only think it is 'likely' that Johnson would be right of centre though - edit - I don't know what the red dot is meant to be, but that looks like Johnson in the top right)
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
That’s because there’s a lack of understanding that politics isn’t linear, it’s probably not even 2D, it’s probably more accurate to show the political scale in a cube.

But people still put people or ideals within politics on a piece of string and can’t understand graphs like Ban’s.
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I actually like the horse shoe as a basic concept.

I have just literally proven that Bob and Ificouldjust... don’t understand politics and think everything right wing is fascist.

I wish I did this several years ago, we’d have saved a lot of time.
 
west didsblue said:
Odd that self proclaimed libertarians support the fascist that is Trump. Here’s the Twitter page of the woman that was shot in the US Capitol as an example.
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Calling yourself a Libertarian does not make you a Libertarian anymore than calling yourself intelligent does. Your actions and values reflect that.
 
west didsblue said:
Odd that self proclaimed libertarians support the fascist that is Trump. Here’s the Twitter page of the woman that was shot in the US Capitol as an example.
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The Democratic Republic of Korea is democratic is it then? It’s definitely a republic yeah?

Because some nutbag calls themselves something, whilst supporting something else, it doesn’t mean they are that thing.

Trump says he’s a Christian but everything that comes out of the cunts mouth is completely contradictory to the faith.
 
Ban-jani said:
The Democratic Republic of Korea is democratic is it then? It’s definitely a republic yeah?

Because some nutbag calls themselves something, whilst supporting something else, it doesn’t mean they are that thing.

Trump says he’s a Christian but everything that comes out of the cunts mouth is completely contradictory to the faith.
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"I'm a thing!"

*doesn't do thing*

"Yep, they're definitely a thing!"
 
Ban-jani said:
He is when it comes to social policy.

In fact he’s pretty liberal in that regard.

He’s right wing in an economic sense mostly, as per that graph.
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I edited my post (my link dropped as I was trying) - isn't that him up in the top right, halfway up?

I don't know what the red dot is, other than whoever ran/saved it.
 
Ban-jani said:
I actually like the horse shoe as a basic concept.

I have just literally proven that Bob and Ificouldjust... don’t understand politics and think everything right wing is fascist.

I wish I did this several years ago, we’d have saved a lot of time.
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That graph you posted pretty much shows the horseshoe
 
Ban-jani said:
I actually like the horse shoe as a basic concept.

I have just literally proven that Bob and Ificouldjust... don’t understand politics and think everything right wing is fascist.

I wish I did this several years ago, we’d have saved a lot of time.
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Yeah, but, no. Not even close. Not even with your lucky horse shoe.
 
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