Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Gaylord du Bois]

What’s the R rate now must be going down

UKHSA data dashboard

Showing public health data across England

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

 

[Healdplace]

Wales data:

14 deaths - was 27 last week

290 cases - was 410 last week

Positivity 3.1% - was 3.8% last week.

Weekly Pop Score 84 - down from 86 yesterday and 107 last week


More really good news from Wales. That Pop Score has fallen from 500 to 84 in 6 weeks.

The Pop Score measures cases week to week smoothing out the ups and downs from day to day counts. That is why it is significant.

84 is much better than almost every borough in the North West. Even Trafford.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales vaccination update

822, 633 first doses given - 15, 282 yesterday - up from 11, 424 yesterday

19, 342 second doses - 6354 yesterday - up from 5737

 

[Rammy Blue]

Wales vaccination update

822, 633 first doses given - 15, 282 yesterday - up from 11, 424 yesterday

19, 342 second doses - 6354 yesterday - up from 5737

That’s a promising increase.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland update:

57 deaths - was 48 last week

685 cases - was 830 last week

3.8% positivity - was 4.0% last week

1261 in hospital - down 56 in day - was 1499 last week

95 ventilated - down 4 in day - was 107 last week


Deaths aside being up that is more good falls in patients and cases

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland vaccination update:

1, 354, 966 first doses given - 34, 892 yesterday - up from 32, 070 day before

3760 second doses given too - was 3272 day before

 

[worsleyweb]

I like the trend in the last few posts - deaths aside obviously

 

[carlosthejackal]

My wife is classed as vunerable and I have been caring for her both in late 50s and haven't heard a peep. Rang the gp and told don't ring us again you'll be notified as they are all out doing vaccinations got on website and couldn't get anywhere

Have you rang 119 ? Spoke to them yesterday about someone with underlying health conditions, they were very helpful.

 

[Healdplace]

Nicola Sturgeon adds they have now offered vaccinations (she used THAT word!) to 100% of all over 70, and care home residents and health care workers and those with clinical vulnerability. (Though noting the take up was over 99% in most categories).

They have also vaccinated 69% of those aged 65 to 69.

 

[Healdplace]

Have you rang 119 ? Spoke to them yesterday about someone with underlying health conditions, they were very helpful.

I agree with this Nellie's left peg - it would certainly do no harm to ask. In your position if still a carer even given that age I would too.

But via your local GP who knows that you are in this position unlike a list you might not be on that someone might read from at the end of a phone line. You can emphasise the risk as a carer and your GP will understand why that matters from your personal circumstances.

They can probably stress that to those doing the call outs and add you to that list. Whereas GPs afaik cannot just do it on their own. They get notified you are in the next batch due more or less when you do but probably can tell the right people if they think you have been left behind.

 

[Healdplace]

Nicola Sturgeon talking sensibly about how we come out of lockdown. Priorities being get to really low numbers first. Then do testing effectively to stop it rising. Pay attention more to how travel - both across the UK and to outside the UK - will act as a re-seeding mechanism especially from less vaccinated nations.

She knows she will face pressure to move quickly into a kind of normality as numbers go down.

But unless we act more carefully and slowly we will be back in lockdown next winter. Which we want to try to avoid not throw away the opportunity given by the vaccinations and the optimism of falling numbers.

That sounds pretty wise to me.

 

[blue corby]

Nicola Sturgeon talking sensibly about how we come out of lockdown. Priorities being get to really low numbers first. Then do testing effectively to stop it rising. Pay attention more to how travel - both across the UK and to outside the UK - will act as a re-seeding mechanism especially from less vaccinated nations.

She knows she will face pressure to move quickly into a kind of normality as numbers go down.

But unless we act more carefully and slowly we will be back in lockdown next winter. Which we want to try to avoid not throw away the opportunity given by the vaccinations and the optimism of falling numbers.

That sounds pretty wise to me.

Sounds to me like she is repeating what has basically been said by the government during the week .

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Age is not the only criteria at all. Vulnerability is. Of themselves or someone they live with.

Now they have got through most down to 60 (and pretty much all within a couple of weeks probably) age will take second place to underlying conditions even more because the sub 60 age risk is not a steep drop like the 60 - 65, 65 - 70 , etc upper age ranges are - nor genetic factors that likely only the GP will know are relevant.

My GP told me that were I still a full time carer as I was for 14 years up to a couple of years ago I would have got mine in January. A month before I did. Just for that reason not age related at all as it was protecting a more vulnerable person who could not avoid contact with me daily.

It is a sign the vaccination programme is going better than expected not cheating.

yeah, well when I know older relatives haven't had theirs yet it doesn't sit well 2bh.

 

[Healdplace]

yeah, well when I know older relatives haven't had theirs yet it doesn't sit well 2bh.

Have they asked their GP why? This is a huge logistics exercise. But anyone over 70 who has been missed should 100% be asking why as they should have been by now.

It could be related to something like allergies and a need for specific vaccines which are not all in strong supply right now. For a week or two it seems. Pfizer is limited as they rejig their Belgian plant and a lot of it we have at the moment is starting to go to the second doses which are ramping up and were often Pfizer in the early days so have to be Pfizer now too.

But anyone over 70 not yet been contacted should be asking why and they have advised them to do just that.

It is open to over 65s now to do that as well so there must be very few over 70s not yet covered.

Below 65 they are focusing more in underlying conditions or vulnerability not just age if I understand the plans correctly.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Sounds to me like she is repeating what has basically been said by the government during the week .

Yes, Wee JK is repeating Bojo’s script and using “offered” vaccinations too. If it works, go for it. She’s thrown in a Scottish border reference for he core support.

 

[Ban-jani]

Nicola Sturgeon talking sensibly about how we come out of lockdown. Priorities being get to really low numbers first. Then do testing effectively to stop it rising. Pay attention more to how travel - both across the UK and to outside the UK - will act as a re-seeding mechanism especially from less vaccinated nations.

She knows she will face pressure to move quickly into a kind of normality as numbers go down.

But unless we act more carefully and slowly we will be back in lockdown next winter. Which we want to try to avoid not throw away the opportunity given by the vaccinations and the optimism of falling numbers.

That sounds pretty wise to me.

She’s spot on.

Let’s make sure we don’t have to go backwards.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths very good news.

309 - down from 494 last Thursday.

And 42 from the NW. which is better news too.

This fall is not slowing down by the looks of it.

Even at that low number - which will make the age % harder to shift much - it still - JUST - stays below 50% for the over 80s.

Under 60s over 10% again too. Which fits the trend inferring the vaccine is starting to have an impact most on the oldest ages given it first. As these deaths are really cases from only a few weeks into the vaccination programme at most.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Got a bit of a moral dilemma tonight.... i work as a psychotherapist and got an email tonight from the BACP - the regulator saying I can jump the queue and get a vaccine because I work with lots of vulnerable people. Will sleep on it... but not sure I want to jump the queue - I have no underlying health concerns so my instinct is to wait my turn... Any views?

It's not jumping the queue. It's a sensible move to vaccinate people in your position. Crack on.

 

[Healdplace]

England hospital deaths:- 3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v today


907 / 121 NW / 13%

630 / 123 NW / 19%

494 / 60 NW / 12%

309 / 42 NW/ 13% Today

One third of what they were three weeks ago is great news.

Especially as hospital numbers and ventilated patient numbers are falling rapidly too which should feed into future death numbers still going down.

 

[Ban-jani]

Got a bit of a moral dilemma tonight.... i work as a psychotherapist and got an email tonight from the BACP - the regulator saying I can jump the queue and get a vaccine because I work with lots of vulnerable people. Will sleep on it... but not sure I want to jump the queue - I have no underlying health concerns so my instinct is to wait my turn... Any views?

I’ll just echo other thoughts... take the vaccine, you work with vulnerable people.

How would you feel if you gave covid to someone who died because you didn’t take the vaccine?

The vulnerable and those working with the vulnerable need to take it, my dad got one and he’s 51 and relatively healthy, but he’s on the testing site so they don’t want him giving it to people coming in to get tested who are negative.

The quicker people are vaccinated the better, even if a few non-vulnerable people slightly jump the queue it’s still good they are vaccinated.

You’re a good man for thinking it over and not wanting to take something that could benefit others first but you’re making the situation more risky for your customers/patients and you being vaccinated helps society generally.

Take it.