Coronavirus (2021) thread

[roubaixtuesday]

Also worth reflecting on how things have changed since instituting the single jab/ 3 months gap policy.

At that point, we weren't sure if the new variant could be controlled at all. Now it's clear the lock down is reducing cases by 20%+ per week, the single dose strategy makes much less difference. We're no longer in a race against an exponentially increasing virus.

Reducing the cases by 20% reduces the risk to the population by 20%. That's equivalent to vaccinating nearly 15 million people! Even taking into account that we've focused on most vulnerable, it shows just how important controlling the virus is.

If the vaccine really does give just 50% protection after one jab (pessimistic imv), three weeks of lock down reduces the risk the same as vaccinating the whole population once.

I think the uk approach is probably still best, but now makes little difference given current circumstances.

 

[Blue Maverick]

It was the scientists.

you mean the ones that wanted an earlier lockdown etc, ye right, the governmnet have unquestionabley had a hard time but they dont do themselves any favours, constant u turns on exams etc, no doubt in 4 months they'll go oh no we shouldve vaccinated after 3 weeks.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Just like to thank @roubaixtuesday and @Healdplace for their input on this thread. Better and quicker than the media.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

An interesting thread on the vaccines, updating them and combating mutations, such as the SA one.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Also, this pretty much echos the thoughts of @roubaixtuesday on the issue discussed on here this morning re Pfizer and Israel.

 

[Gabriel]

Cannot read too much into it, I know, but according to the Worldometer site, Israel has had the following new cases over the last three days.

January 18th : 9,917
January 19th : 7,380
January 20th : 4,874

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

 

[Healdplace]

I agree with Gary.

I agree he is exactly the kind of journalist the BBC used to employ not preening prima donnas where they are the focus of the story not the story.

About time he was asking the questions at the press conferences not the ones using their questions to fit into their already pre decided to camera feature for that evening's news.

Way too much of that happens now all TV has become basically X Factor - The Pandemic.

Pieces like Clive's stand out because they are sadly too rare when in the days when British TV was the envy of the world they were the norm.

 

[Marvin]

Also worth reflecting on how things have changed since instituting the single jab/ 3 months gap policy.

At that point, we weren't sure if the new variant could be controlled at all. Now it's clear the lock down is reducing cases by 20%+ per week, the single dose strategy makes much less difference. We're no longer in a race against an exponentially increasing virus.

Reducing the cases by 20% reduces the risk to the population by 20%. That's equivalent to vaccinating nearly 15 million people! Even taking into account that we've focused on most vulnerable, it shows just how important controlling the virus is.

If the vaccine really does give just 50% protection after one jab (pessimistic imv), three weeks of lock down reduces the risk the same as vaccinating the whole population once.

I think the uk approach is probably still best, but now makes little difference given current circumstances.

It is important we clarify how much protection the elderly and vulnerable population have whilst they wait for the 2nd jabs.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I don't understand why you are comparing lockdowns with vaccination. Lockdowns are about short-term control. . We did that through the Summer and now we have a peak that's even bigger than the first wave. Immunity is what will end this.

The one shot vs two shot vaccine strategy is also about short term control, that's the only comparison I'm trying to draw.

 

[Eds]

Why does everyone believe so called gloomy news from people who aren't qualified to write about the subject or from people who haven't done the proper research etc. Think it was the scientists who suggested that to have more people with some immunisation the UK should spread out the jabs to 12 weeks and everyone at the time said ' what a great idea, brilliant, genius etc. Now with little research those same people are blaming the government for making a crap decision.