Alex Scott new host of Football Focus

ninjamonkey said:
She seems to get overvalued as a pundit precisely because she's a woman. If a bloke came out with the same stuff she does, they'd be labelled as dull and pointless. Points out the obvious, keeps it safe and adds next to nothing. She's the female equivalent of Ashley Cole.

There's worse about, much worse but she's far from being good. Is she any better as a presenter? No idea but if it stops her being a pundit give her a shot.

Chappers is by far the best sports presenter, his football and nfl coverage is unparalleled.
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Yeah agree with that. Previous NFL coverage has felt a bit babyish. He has a laugh but asks decent questions, and you can tell by the pros they have on it that they are decent questions. They handled BLM really well as a programme allowing for conflicting views on "taking a knee", etc, which were sensitively handled and chaired by him. Great show.
 
ninjamonkey said:
She seems to get overvalued as a pundit precisely because she's a woman. If a bloke came out with the same stuff she does, they'd be labelled as dull and pointless. Points out the obvious, keeps it safe and adds next to nothing. She's the female equivalent of Ashley Cole.

There's worse about, much worse but she's far from being good. Is she any better as a presenter? No idea but if it stops her being a pundit give her a shot.

Chappers is by far the best sports presenter, his football and nfl coverage is unparalleled.
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Nothing to do with her being a women , next to the men who are walking clićhes she is a breathe of fresh air

i hate this fucking notion she and other women get jobs because they are women and not that they have earned it , dinoseur thinking, the glass ceiling is hard enough

Sexist twaddle
 
Just a case of someone in the BBC recruitment section looking for a rise for being so 'up to date' with women being posted into what have historically been male posts, just because he / she can. Even John Motson said that a female voice doesn't sit at all well with mens football.

I'm old enough to remember when tv added the 'ex professional' to sit at the side of the commentator and add his views. At first people thought it odd to have someone broadcasting who perhaps didn't speak as well as might be expected. But the stations explained that the broadcaster was the professional in the commentary box and the ex-pro was there to add the tactical knowledge that the broadcaster wouldn't have had.

If you accept that and it seems reasonable to me, then it's fairly easy to go down this path

flyer to BBC ' I used to play football, can I have a job as an ex player'
BBC to flyer 'I'm sorry flyer, but you never really played at a high standard did you?'
flyer to BBC 'Well womens football is of a very low standard, comparatively, probably high non-league or League Two at best, so why do you keep appointing women to senior positions'

Can't imagine Marcus Barnes of Oldham Athletic for example will be on MOTD anytime soon, can you?
 
What cracks me up is those moaning she is relpacing walker while not having played football at a level they deem high enough and because she isn't a journalist

She had a bachelors degree in sports journalism, been doing punditry for the past few years and at least played profesional football. So is more qualified than half the football presenters we have on major channels such as stelling, walker and humphries as she was a footballer.
 
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chesterbells said:
He’s moving onwards, and possibly upwards. He’s been in post for 12 years, and his abilities can be used elsewhere too.
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He used to part host the Open Golf on BBC, (not sure if he did the last one but the bbc gave up their rights early to Sky) ) but he would never be available for the final day as it's a Sunday and his religious beliefs prevent him working on the Sabbath. I don't think he works in football on Sunday's as well.


His choice but he was lucky to be allowed the privilege of picking and choosing.

As for Alex Scott, she's the female equivalent of Walker and Jermaine Jenas, totally bland and inoffensive, won't be watching as I haven't with Walker.
 
hammocity said:
He used to part host the Open Golf on BBC, (not sure if he did the last one but the bbc gave up their rights early to Sky) ) but he would never be available for the final day as it's a Sunday and his religious beliefs prevent him working on the Sabbath. I don't think he works in football on Sunday's as well.


His choice but he was lucky to be allowed the privilege of picking and choosing.

As for Alex Scott, she's the female equivalent of Walker and Jermaine Jenas, totally bland and inoffensive, won't be watching as I haven't with Walker.
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No, I’ve generally watch soccer Saturday for a few years now myself. Yes, think you are correct about Sundays.
 
urban genie said:
What cracks me up is those moaning she is relpacing walker while not having played football at a level they deem high enough and because she isn't a journalist

She had a bachelors degree in sports journalism, been doing punditry for the past few years and at least played profesional football. So is more qualified than halve the football presenters we have on major channels such as stelling, walker and humphries as she was a footballer.
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Some of the best presenters and commentators on a lot of mainstream sports have been enthusiastic sporting amateurs. Murray Walker, Sid Waddell, John Arlott, Des Lyman, Bill McLaren, David Coleman, Brian Moore, Peter O'Sullivan, Motty, Brought Scott, Harry Carpenter, etc plus some ex pro's like Ritchie Benaud and Peter Alliss who in their day were imperious on the Mike.

Cricket currently has a lot of ex players but they are able to put aside any bias and provide thought provoking, intelligent and concise views on the game, good or bad.

With football, the ridiculous overkill of rags and dippers has made a mockery of serious punditry. There's a huge anti City bias there whilst sucking up to the aforementioned and quite often London based teams. Football has a serious lack of talent (and or independence) within the media, both written and spoken.
 
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hammocity said:
Some of the best presenters and commentators on a lot of mainstream sports have been enthusiastic sporting amateurs. Murray Walker, Sid Waddell, John Arlott, Bill McLaren, David Coleman, Brian Moore, Peter O'Sullivan, Motty, Brought Scott, Harry Carpenter, etc plus some ex pro's like Ritchie Benaud and Peter Alliss who in their day were imperious on the Mike.

Cricket currently has a lot of ex players but they are able to put aside any bias and provide thought provoking, intelligent and concise views on the game, good or bad.

With football, the ridiculous overkill of rags and dippers has made a mockery of serious punditry. There's a huge anti City bias there whilst sucking up to the aforementioned and quite often London based teams. Football has a serious lack of talent (and or independence) within the media, both written and spoken.
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I have nowt against presenters who never played the game or other sports they host shows for and that wasn't my point, my point was some are saying she isn't qualified to do it because she never played the mens game but walker is, a feeble arguementnl in my opinion.

Whether her tenure is the usual rag/scouse wankfest we will find out soonn enough
 
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