The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

Would you be happy if City joined this European Super League?

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 5.3%

  • No

    Votes: 1,954 94.7%
  • Total voters
    2,063
Norbiton said:
I suspect City might be happy to accept this given the pain it would inflict on our rivals.
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Yes, I think probably so, (was a poor joke), and you would hope the others would think likewise
 
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Norbiton said:
I suspect City might be happy to accept this given the pain it would inflict on our rivals.
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I agree.
But it will be interesting to see how much.
Substantial?
50m fine each?
That's a fair wedge and if UEFA were to follow suit that's a 100m hit to each club.
We could probably absorb it as could the rent boys and rags, but dippers, spursy and gooners could suffer.
In this scenario there's no big signings next season that's for sure
 
What if all the clubs refused to pay the fine. What would happen then? All 6 kicked out of the premiership and free to set up a super league! Master stroke by Perez!! Lol
 
City fined a CL final win.

The rest £50,000,000 and a suspended 5 year European ban which will come into play the moment John Henry mentions the word breakaway.
 
lcfc_chump said:
"See you in court FIFA/UEFA/FA/EPL/PFA/ESL" (delete as appropriate)
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Legally did we actually join this new ESL organisation?
Our was it just letter of intent or something similar?
It's the joining which seems to put us in breach of the PL rule.
I don't think we'll challenge it unless the fine is considered excessive given that it could be argued the breach of the rule was corrected within 48 hours with no impact other than breach of trust?
 
This has been an error of epic proportions that will be hugely expensive too.

I wonder if there will be a symbolic scapegoat for this? If so, I’d expect it to be Soriano being shunted sideways at least.
 
Len Rum said:
I agree.
But it will be interesting to see how much.
Substantial?
50m fine each?
That's a fair wedge and if UEFA were to follow suit that's a 100m hit to each club.
We could probably absorb it as could the rent boys and rags, but dippers, spursy and gooners could suffer.
In this scenario there's no big signings next season that's for sure
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I think cool heads are needed. Punishments need to be very carefully thought out. Both parties need a resolution which does not result in a situation where everyone beggars each other and everyone carries a grudge. Both parties need each other. The "uninvited" 14 need the global pulling power of the Big Six and the Big Six need a product which has a degree of romanticism and history beyond the "Sky era".
Unfortunately, history tells me that the football authorities have rarely ever acted as Solomon but are more like poor old Solomon Grundy in the scope of their shortsightedness.
 
Len Rum said:
Legally did we actually join this new ESL organisation?
Our was it just letter of intent or something similar?
It's the joining which seems to put us in breach of the PL rule.
I don't think we'll challenge it unless the fine is considered excessive given that it could be argued the breach of the rule was corrected within 48 hours with no impact other than breach of trust?
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It would be difficult for the PL to prove material loss given the short lived nature of the proposals and the simple fact that nothing actually happened. I’m not sure any of the 6 would want to prolong the agony by arguing in court though.
 
Len Rum said:
Legally did we actually join this new ESL organisation?
Our was it just letter of intent or something similar?
It's the joining which seems to put us in breach of the PL rule.
I don't think we'll challenge it unless the fine is considered excessive given that it could be argued the breach of the rule was corrected within 48 hours with no impact other than breach of trust?
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That's my view, too. The ESL had no start date so unless the PL can prove that clubs were going to enter this competition while still being members of the PL I think they are in tricky territory in enforcing it and disciplining those teams they deem are in breach.
 
If they go over the top with penalties, this might just encourage teams to reconsider rejoining.

In any event, what did City and many of the other clubs do about from agreeing something in principal. It could easily be argued that they were simply setting up a new competition and applying to the Premier League and UEFA for clearance.

Best of luck with the Premier League trying to argue their case with CAS. They would be laughed out of court.
 
I’m always intrigued as to what happens to these ‘fines’ . There never seems to be any communication on how they are distributed afterwards .
 
“Significant fine”
Time will tell how significant it is, whether it’s “a pinch” or if we’re paying the premier leagues Christmas bonuses.
In the current climate they need to be careful though.
It could end up driving a bigger wedge between the 6 and the premier league and the other 14 teams.
They need to come together and find solutions so this doesn’t happen again.
Big fines won’t help the situation.
 
I don't blame the PL for this stance, but I'm either expecting some paltry fine or something substantial enough to cause the top 6 clubs to appeal, which they'd easily win.
 
Fines are the easy brush it under the carpet outcome but given the ESL was entirely about money is makes sense the punishment should hit their wallets. The problem is all we all know it's the fans that will end up paying for the majority of it when it's passed down in price increases.

What I want if it is fines is a very clear outline of where the money from these fines will go. Taking money from these 6 clubs to go into the pockets of faceless bigwigs at the PL does zero good. I want a promise the money will go directly into football, distribute it equally between all other football league sides
 
JGL07 said:
If they go over the top with penalties, this might just encourage teams to reconsider rejoining.

In any event, what did City and many of the other clubs do about from agreeing something in principal. It could easily be argued that they were simply setting up a new competition and applying to the Premier League and UEFA for clearance.

Best of luck with the Premier League trying to argue their case with CAS. They would be laughed out of court.
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Our statement (and the others) stated that the next step was to work with UEFA/FIFA.

You could argue the intent was to join a competition with the full backing of UEFA/FIFA/PL. And when it become clear that wasn't going to happen everyone pulled out.
 
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