Pep Guardiola - 2020/21 Performances

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Provided he plays his best eleven or at least a strong eleven we will be champions . His stubbornness to change the game yesterday down that left side shows he has an achilles heel. He just refuses to solve glaring problems in games. You'd think that the staff would even help but they cant ,not when he has a game plan as it must be carried out at all costs.
If he brings on Zinchenko ,Bernardo/ Foden , Gundogan on 60 mins we possibly a win ,get a draw . But no. Bringing on Zinchenko would be an admission that he'd got it wrong from the start. Instead of seeing that he could be praised for making such a decision he takes the negative view. He may think that if he brought such and such a player on and we lost then he would lose more credibility. Ok that is true but then don't pick such a weakened left hand side from the start . We all knew the dangers yesterday in the pre match thread even though some of us were saying ok, we put up with it ,nothing we can do. let's go with what we have and it might come off. But when you're trying to win the PL you've got to put out a team that is not just depending on good fortune - it very nearly did but if he puts out a stronger 11 we get something out of the game.
 
I wasn't happy about the starting XI but we went in 1-0 up at half-time (and really should have been 2-0).

Then he should have changed things, putting Bernardo and either Gundogan or Foden on for Aguero and Mendy and going to a 4-3-3, with Cancelo and Ake as full backs. We then get more control over the game. But he didn't and even failed to change it when it became clear it wasn't working. Not one of his finest hours.
 
One thing is for Certain when we play in the final we will need to deal with that young Chelsea playerJames he was very good yesterday. I know Mendy was bad but James is a big threat on that side
 
eastmanc said:
Our record at Wembley is very good and we have played there far more than Chelsea in recent years, so if anything it’s more familiar to us .
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I just want a European Cup final to be in Europe not on home soil, it’s our first one and I think it would suit Pep and our players, if it was played in Spain, Portugal, Germany etc, Just my opinion bud
 
Trojan1962 said:
One thing is for Certain when we play in the final we will need to deal with that young Chelsea playerJames he was very good yesterday. I know Mendy was bad but James is a big threat on that side
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I doubt James will be playing although the fact he played so well might get Tuchel thinking.
Chilwell, Havertz and Mount will be 3 starters that didn't play yesterday.
 
The last 3 defeats have all been because he has rotated the team too much. Yesterday he literally put a team together of people who didn’t play midweek regardless of the messed up formation.

It was the anthesis of what he stands for, ie one midfielder in the whole team. It is very annoying as it is obvious the team is so unbalanced and he doesn’t seem to care. You can’t beat decent teams like that. Yes you get odd games that work like Palace and yesterday may have worked if we scored the penalty but we weren’t great overall.
 
Chelsea might as well be playing a different team when we meet in the Champions League final. I remain confident that our best team, as in the second semi, will comprehensively beat them.
 
mcfc482 said:
The last 3 defeats have all been because he has rotated the team too much. Yesterday he literally put a team together of people who didn’t play midweek regardless of the messed up formation.

It was the anthesis of what he stands for, ie one midfielder in the whole team. It is very annoying as it is obvious the team is so unbalanced and he doesn’t seem to care. You can’t beat decent teams like that. Yes you get odd games that work like Palace and yesterday may have worked if we scored the penalty but we weren’t great overall.
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I don’t agree that Pep doesn’t care but you are right about over rotation being the reason for the the last three home defeats.
 
Not really arsed about the team selection. We need to rest players and we need to give minutes to players to keep them happy and also to give them a chance to impress. Some of those players keep failing to take those chances.

That being said, there's a lot more he could have done in the second half to regain control.
 
Trojan1962 said:
One thing is for Certain when we play in the final we will need to deal with that young Chelsea playerJames he was very good yesterday. I know Mendy was bad but James is a big threat on that side
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I would be dangerous against Ben Mendy and Im 56 and about 5 stone overweight, he has lost any pace he had before his injuries. Surely he will be shipped out in the summer.
 
I think our Paris boys deserved their day off yesterday. Tuesday was a huge game physically and emotionally, Paris put us under pressure and we had to work incredibly hard as well as the emotions of getting to the club’s first ever CL final.

Who’s to say we would have won with our full strength team? They might not have been mentally ready for that game, they might not have played well. What if we’d lost with our best team out? What would that have done ahead of the CL final?

Ive got no problem with the lineup chosen yesterday. That was a more expensive team put out than the team that played against Paris, there’s no reason or excuse for them playing so poorly. These are supposed to be £40-70m players, players who could have made Pep think he might have to include them in the CL final had they played well. I don’t think a single one of them did. But that’s not Pep’s fault.
 
eastmanc said:
I don’t agree that Pep doesn’t care but you are right about over rotation being the reason for the the last three home defeats.
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He has went all in for the CL which is the right thing to do especially if we win it and the league. Obviously frustrating losing games because of over rotation when its not necessarily needed, Chelsea and United seem to play the same team even if they have 3 games a week.

Keeping a solid core or at least playing a similar system instead of going polar opposite would probably be more beneficial.

Again if we win what we hopefully will, noone will care anyway. We just want to win every game.
 
eastmanc said:
I don’t agree that Pep doesn’t care but you are right about over rotation being the reason for the the last three home defeats.
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I agree with you Eastmanc.

Moreover, I think that Pep's recent selections have been strategic - long term thinking - not tactical - short term gain.

He's started a bunch of players in a different lineup - to learn, IMO. To learn more about what non-first-choice players have currently to offer in a game setting - to try out different formations - and to rest most of his first choice squad for when it really counts.

Yes, we've lost some games as a result - on the other hand, Pep has undoubtedly learned more about our players and about what formations may work (or not).

Pep is a perfectionist - there's nothing he does in football that isn't by precise design. It might not appear to work out - but it's absolutely been thought over very carefully... nay, meticulously.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I think our Paris boys deserved their day off yesterday. Tuesday was a huge game physically and emotionally, Paris put us under pressure and we had to work incredibly hard as well as the emotions of getting to the club’s first ever CL final.

Who’s to say we would have won with our full strength team? They might not have been mentally ready for that game, they might not have played well. What if we’d lost with our best team out? What would that have done ahead of the CL final?

Ive got no problem with the lineup chosen yesterday. That was a more expensive team put out than the team that played against Paris, there’s no reason or excuse for them playing so poorly. These are supposed to be £40-70m players, players who could have made Pep think he might have to include them in the CL final had they played well. I don’t think a single one of them did. But that’s not Pep’s fault.
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I think yesterday pretty much cemented the PSG second leg line up as the team for the final. If that was an audition for those players then they shat the bed almost to a man
 
BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Pep is a perfectionist - there's nothing he does in football that isn't by precise design. It might not appear to work out - but it's absolutely been thought over very carefully... nay, meticulously.
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I wish that applied to penalty kicks, for which we apparently have no strategy or policy whatsoever. Remember when Rodri just decided to take one and Pep seemed as surprised as anyone else? It's so odd. Surely our top handful of penalty takers should be designated and they should be getting coached on the opposition goalkeeper pre-game. Seems like a major oversight for a team that gets (and misses) as many penalties as we do
 
FromPollockToSilva said:
I wish that applied to penalty kicks, for which we apparently have no strategy or policy whatsoever. Remember when Rodri just decided to take one and Pep seemed as surprised as anyone else? It's so odd. Surely our top handful of penalty takers should be designated and they should be getting coached on the opposition goalkeeper pre-game. Seems like a major oversight for a team that gets (and misses) as many penalties as we do
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Maybe - or, on the other hand, might it be better for the team, as a whole, to let the team decide who takes a penalty? Yes, we might miss an occasional penalty because of this - downside.

Upside though - the manager believes in us. In our decisions. Letting us decide who takes a penalty.
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I don't feel strongly either way.
 
Why does he always say we played well? We were shite.
I think there was an element of hiding some tactics.

That said, they can hurt us and to everyone who seems convinced we take them with our best side, if you were a Chelsea fan you’d say we battered these without Havertz and Mount.

50/50 and they have the edge in pace, it’s a nightmare opponent, but we are the better team on paper, but we can’t carry any passengers, everyone has to be on it.
 
The maestro has buoyed Chelsea's confidence against us -they won't fear us going into the Final and that is huge.
He's emboldened the scum by his Leeds and Chelsea foolish selections. They will celebrate getting within touching distance of us even if they fall short.
Yesterday he did not look to me like a genius whose cunning plan to delay the coronation as Champions was going splendidly -he looked like a whacko who's home made bomb just exploded in his face.
Play your best 11 get it won then dick about .
 
eastmanc said:
I would be dangerous against Ben Mendy and Im 56 and about 5 stone overweight, he has lost any pace he had before his injuries. Surely he will be shipped out in the summer.
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Come on Dave, you’d dazzle him with sidesteps and leave him in your wake!
 
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