Harry Kane

robbieh said:
I think it's fair to say that Pep also has the tools to get the job done.
Anyone who thinks Conte is not a top manager is deluded.
I think there are too many on here who think everything revolves around us.
Conte is a huge upgrade on Mourinho and that might be enough to persuade Kane to stay.
I actually thought Spurs after last summer's purchases had a pretty decent squad. They also had Maureen who fucked it up.
With Conte top 4 is on the cards.
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The debt is the killer for spurs, it's going to be almost impossible to build a top team and sustain it with that amount of debt dragging them down. Kane doesn't want to be playing for 4th place, he wants titles and cups, he isn't getting that at spurs with Conte or whoever the manager is.
 
racecar said:
You can’t seriously put Tuchel in that category. CL win or not, the guy failed everywhere else. He’ll be gone from Chelsea by the end of the season
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You’re being delusional here. Tuchel is one of the smartest managers in the world. His teams in Germany played great football and were tactically brilliant. If you listen to the academics of football in Germany, many of them will put Tuchel above or at least on par with Klopp. He won domestic trophies in France and got PSG to a UCL final which they lost but handled an extraordinary Bayern side well. Like he said in an interview right before being sacked, he felt more like a politician than a trainer there, the environment was toxic and he did as well as he could.
The thing now is that Abramovich and Tuchel are both equally ruthless and I think that combination will work out well for Chelsea long term. His ambitions will be backed and I think it will turn out well for both. Of course, I could be wrong and he could be sacked soon like you said. That doesn’t change the fact he is a top manager and one I thought of last year as an easy Pep replacement were he to leave while many brought up Pochettino and Nagelsmann.
 
I can't see the possible appointment of Conte make Arry change his mind.

Conte is just the same as Roberto Mancini, quality manager, but a manager that is very short term, far too dramatic, demanding ,high maintenance and quickly causes division in the dressing room and boardroom.
 
Still find this whole scenario absolutely bizarre. Conte throws his toys out the pram at Milan due to lack of cash, and then rocks up (potentially) at Spurs who are in mega debt.
If this happens then Conte is a one season sticking plaster at best. I don’t see Spurs getting past us, Liverpool, Chelsea or The Scum next season. Conte would have a short amount of time to assess the squad and hunt for bargains. Conte is good, but he’s not that good.
 
BamberBridgeBlue said:
Still find this whole scenario absolutely bizarre. Conte throws his toys out the pram at Milan due to lack of cash, and then rocks up (potentially) at Spurs who are in mega debt.
If this happens then Conte is a one season sticking plaster at best. I don’t see Spurs getting past us, Liverpool, Chelsea or The Scum next season. Conte would have a short amount of time to assess the squad and hunt for bargains. Conte is good, but he’s not that good.
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They are in serious debt,if this is true.

www.spurs-web.com

Report reveals how Spurs' debt compares to big European clubs - Over £1 billion

According to Swiss Ramble (as relayed by Football.London), Tottenham Hotspur currently possess the highest debt in European football, with the vast majority of it being...
www.spurs-web.com www.spurs-web.com
 
BamberBridgeBlue said:
Still find this whole scenario absolutely bizarre. Conte throws his toys out the pram at Milan due to lack of cash, and then rocks up (potentially) at Spurs who are in mega debt.
If this happens then Conte is a one season sticking plaster at best. I don’t see Spurs getting past us, Liverpool, Chelsea or The Scum next season. Conte would have a short amount of time to assess the squad and hunt for bargains. Conte is good, but he’s not that good.
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Who knows what snake oil Levy sold Conte

This will probably end up like what happened to him at Chelsea - ask for a top class midfielder, board gives him Danny Drinkwater.
 
racecar said:
You can’t seriously put Tuchel in that category. CL win or not, the guy failed everywhere else. He’ll be gone from Chelsea by the end of the season
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I think 'failed' is a little harsh. Tuchel is a top coach on the pitch.

His sackings are always due to problems off it, and I'm pretty certain knowing Chelsea, this will be what causes his downfall.
 
Gus Cruz said:
You’re being delusional here. Tuchel is one of the smartest managers in the world. His teams in Germany played great football and were tactically brilliant. If you listen to the academics of football in Germany, many of them will put Tuchel above or at least on par with Klopp. He won domestic trophies in France and got PSG to a UCL final which they lost but handled an extraordinary Bayern side well. Like he said in an interview right before being sacked, he felt more like a politician than a trainer there, the environment was toxic and he did as well as he could.
The thing now is that Abramovich and Tuchel are both equally ruthless and I think that combination will work out well for Chelsea long term. His ambitions will be backed and I think it will turn out well for both. Of course, I could be wrong and he could be sacked soon like you said. That doesn’t change the fact he is a top manager and one I thought of last year as an easy Pep replacement were he to leave while many brought up Pochettino and Nagelsmann.
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He failed in France. He didn’t improve PSG. He fluked his way to a “CL final” in a single-round mini summer tournament after PSG were given the easiest CL draw in history. They were still almost eliminated by Atalanta and his team was carried by the individual brilliance of Neymar and Mbappe with no plan B.

People can say what they want about Klopp but he won the Bundesliga twice with Dortmund, as well as 2-3 domestic cup trophies. He and Tuchel are not on the same level.

As for Tuchel potentially replacing Pep, I would hate to watch his brand of football here, regardless of whether it would be successful or not. Make no mistake, he won the CL with them which is fair enough, but so did Di Matteo. That in itself does not show that someone is a great manager. They almost missed out on Top 4 and ended up finishing behind a shit Liverpool side. I don’t buy into the hype. He’ll be gone this time next year.
 
racecar said:
He failed in France. He didn’t improve PSG. He fluked his way to a “CL final” in a single-round mini summer tournament after PSG were given the easiest CL draw in history. They were still almost eliminated by Atalanta and his team was carried by the individual brilliance of Neymar and Mbappe with no plan B.

People can say what they want about Klopp but he won the Bundesliga twice with Dortmund, as well as 2-3 domestic cup trophies. He and Tuchel are not on the same level.

As for Tuchel potentially replacing Pep, I would hate to watch his brand of football here, regardless of whether it would be successful or not. Make no mistake, he won the CL with them which is fair enough, but so did Di Matteo. That in itself does not show that someone is a great manager. They almost missed out on Top 4 and ended up finishing behind a shit Liverpool side. I don’t buy into the hype. He’ll be gone this time next year.
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Pep is Father Christmas to Tuchel. Was. Next season we shall take the toys away from the screaming boy.
 
SPIDERBOY said:
They are in serious debt,if this is true.

www.spurs-web.com

Report reveals how Spurs' debt compares to big European clubs - Over £1 billion

According to Swiss Ramble (as relayed by Football.London), Tottenham Hotspur currently possess the highest debt in European football, with the vast majority of it being...
www.spurs-web.com www.spurs-web.com
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Large - but is it serious, given that almost all of it is related to the stadium build?

United were heading for oblivion due to the ridiculous debt payments they had to make, but football has gone up an extra level in the last few years financially, and top PL clubs aren't seen as anything like as risky, so their interest rates are right down.

Most of Spurs loans are apparently now on very long term repayments. Spurs levels of revenue have gone up significantly since they started building the stadium, they've got a low wage bill compared to the rest of the big six, and they made a good profit before covid. I'd assume they're in a position to let loose a little over the next few years.
 
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