VAR - 2020/21

[Maly]

I was watching the Heineken Cup rugby final yesterday.
La Rochelle player yellow carded for a high tackle.
There was a review on the large screen and you could quite clearly hear the conversation between the ref and the people in the reviewing studio.
They explained why and what they were looking for and upgraded decision to a red.
The ref called over team captain and explained reason for the change in his decision and all could still be heard. Everyone knew what was going on.
It was done so professionally in rugby's equivalent to our champions league final with the added pressure of both teams being from the same country

If we had the same transparency in football, VAR would be far far better. Wonder why they refuse to do this?

 

[mat]

If we had the same transparency in football, VAR would be far far better. Wonder why they refuse to do this?

We know why.

Attwell: Was it a penalty Mossy?

Moss: It was. But as it's City fuck em!

 

[Maly]

We know why.

Attwell: Was it a penalty Mossy?

Moss: It was. But as it's City fuck em!

What a cynical view to have of VAR & our beautiful game ;)

 

[radcliffe1309]

If we had the same transparency in football, VAR would be far far better. Wonder why they refuse to do this?

Unlike Rugby, football fans (and possibly players)would kick off if they didn't agree with the comments and decision given, plus our officials dont have the bottle for this 90% of them are shithouses too !
Very few Rugby players argue or contest a refs decision.......

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Unlike Rugby, football fans (and possibly players)would kick off if they didn't agree with the comments and decision given, plus our officials dont have the bottle for this 90% of them are shithouses too !
Very few Rugby players argue or contest a refs decision.......

That is because the referees in Rugby would take action against players who argue with their decisions .

If the refs if football were consistent and took action against players who surrounded them ( supposed to be in force but not acted upon ) then players would have to stop or risk missing games.

The refs in football are weak , poor, inconsitent and incapable of applying the rules already in force ie simulation,

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Can’t blame VAR, it’s the incompetent refs

 

[radcliffe1309]

That is because the referees in Rugby would take action against players who argue with their decisions .

If the refs if football were consistent and took action against players who surrounded them ( supposed to be in force but not acted upon ) then players would have to stop or risk missing games.

The refs in football are weak , poor, inconsitent and incapable of applying the rules already in force ie simulation,

Yes exactly......shithouses

 

[stonerblue]

Can’t blame VAR, it’s the incompetent refs

Yes we can and no it isn't.

 

[mat]

Lump on the rags v dippers title chase!

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Lump on the rags v dippers title chase!

Basically taking into account that the TV frame rate cant handle the speed of the game, something that many on here have been preaching since it’s inception.

What prompted the change, did United lose out on yet another dodgy penalty because they were more than Sterling’s armpit air offside?

 

[cleavers]

Had to laugh at "thicker lines" are they going to use thicker VAR officials too, it would be pretty hard.

 

[mat]

Basically taking into account that the TV frame rate cant handle the speed of the game, something that many on here have been preaching since it’s inception.

What prompted the change, did United lose out on yet another dodgy penalty because they were more than Sterling’s armpit air offside?

I think it guarantees Rashford the Golden boot as his nose will be onside.

 

[mat]

Other fans are seeing it the same way we are.

 

[richardtheref]

Was it the Wales game when UEFA had only 1 camera working. Wonder how they would have handled any controversial decisions?

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

VAR now working much better:
1) Faster decisions without holding up the game;
2) Hand ball rule fixed so stupid penalties/disallowed goals now a thing of the past.

 

[BlueMoonAcrossThePond]

VAR now working much better:
1) Faster decisions without holding up the game;
2) Hand ball rule fixed so stupid penalties/disallowed goals now a thing of the past.

I've always favored VAR - but recognized that it was a work in progress. One of my friends hates(hated) VAR with a major source of frustration hand ball VAR rulings - not the fault of VAR, but rather, of the old hand ball rule.

Now that the hand ball rule has been fixed, I really think VAR is about where it should be. As you say, rulings are quick, the hand ball rule has been sensically updated so hand ball VAR decisions are in line with what is mostly expected, and further, VAR is now much less likely to overrule on-field decisions (it's now much more along the lines of overrule only if "clear and obvious.")
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The biggest problem with VAR and referring currently - is that refs are instructed not to blow for offside even when offside seems obvious when a goal scoring opportunity exists. This results in play after offside which will be called back. Such post-offside play may result in:
1) A goal, only to be called back - unnecessarily upsetting fans/players for the goal-scoring side;
2) Injuries - players, rightly playing to the whistle, may injure themselves, unnecessarily, for a sequence of play that will be disallowed.

Solution - it's in the future - but AI could solve this.

 

[mat]

VAR now working much better:
1) Faster decisions without holding up the game;
2) Hand ball rule fixed so stupid penalties/disallowed goals now a thing of the past.

Bound to revert to shit when PIGMOL run it for the PL again.

 

[BlueHammer85]

VAR now working much better:
1) Faster decisions without holding up the game;
2) Hand ball rule fixed so stupid penalties/disallowed goals now a thing of the past.

see the Lukaku goal that’s just been disallowed ?

Fans would be crying corruption/fuck VAR etc if that was in the Prem.

 

[andthesunshineband]

Was it the Wales game when UEFA had only 1 camera working. Wonder how they would have handled any controversial decisions?

Just have to work with what you've got even if you have no cameras at all. Not me mate, one P Walton explaining to Camel Gob on BT. Tripped over it the other night funnily enough.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Just have to work with what you've got even if you have no cameras at all. Not me mate, one P Walton explaining to Camel Gob on BT. Tripped over it the other night funnily enough.

Is that how they work it at United and Liverpool, just ignore in favour of the home team?