VAR - 2020/21

[Saddleworth2]

As long as Rugby and Cricket make it work, the question will always be. Why not PL football? The answer to that is clear and that is what needs to be addressed.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Dubious offside with no evidence of a check (yet again at Klansnfeild)
Yes I would tell anyone face to face.
Would you keep spouting such crap face to face?
Has it cut out diving as you said it would?
One of our greatest results today and I didn't celebrate a single goal in the way I used to thanks to you and your kind.

Are you not more Angry at Man City and Pep Guardiola for voting in favour for VAR to the PL ? Is Pep a c*nt for wanting it ?

what have I actually done wrong. I don’t work for FIFA or the FA and have never had a say whether or not it can be introduced, I’m just someone on a forum that try’s to have a balanced debate about VAR without resorting to pathetic abuse.

to answer your point. On diving. I think clear dives with zero contact has dramatically decreased, loads in fact. There has been a few given this season and that Martial one is farcical, I’m not going to defend that at all. That’s not on me neither all the future controversy that will always happen. I would love a system in place that can eradicate diving all together - I don’t think it’s possible as so much of it is based on perception and it’s why you have so many pundits and fans argue whether it is or not.

if there was no VAR and a ref gives a penalty for a blatant dive , should I get angry and abusive at you and say ‘if we had VAR a ref wouldn’t have given the penalty’ . It works both ways.

No system is ever going to be perfect. So you can live in a world of anger and moan and moan at every decision or you can try and embrace change and give a balanced perspective of what can improve.

An improvement for me would be to put Mason + Dean on trial to answer for there ridiculous decisions of late ! Even aided by the help of clear replays they come to those conclusions.

I totally understand the frustration and concerns of VAR, I’m not a massive fan or advocate and it does take something out the game. Why I have to repeat this over and over I’m not sure.

but I don’t want it scraped. I don’t want refs making blind decisions and getting far more ludicrous decisions incorrect. Sorry I have that view and that makes me a c*nt.

VAR is being used all over the world now, it seems to be progressing in other countries and has it reduced attendances and the love of the game ? For you it has which is a shame. For many others it hasn’t at all.

but I agree with the vast majority outside of this forum that law changes to the game and better officiating can make VAR really improve the game. Ultimately that’s what most want.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Are you not more Angry at Man City and Pep Guardiola for voting in favour for VAR to the PL ? Is Pep a c*nt for wanting it ?

what have I actually done wrong. I don’t work for FIFA or the FA and have never had a say whether or not it can be introduced, I’m just someone on a forum that try’s to have a balanced debate about VAR without resorting to pathetic abuse.

to answer your point. On diving. I think clear dives with zero contact has dramatically decreased, loads in fact. There has been a few given this season and that Martial one is farcical, I’m not going to defend that at all. That’s not on me neither all the future controversy that will always happen. I would love a system in place that can eradicate diving all together - I don’t think it’s possible as so much of it is based on perception and it’s why you have so many pundits and fans argue whether it is or not.

if there was no VAR and a ref gives a penalty for a blatant dive , should I get angry and abusive at you and say ‘if we had VAR a ref wouldn’t have given the penalty’ . It works both ways.

No system is ever going to be perfect. So you can live in a world of anger and moan and moan at every decision or you can try and embrace change and give a balanced perspective of what can improve.

An improvement for me would be to put Mason + Dean on trial to answer for there ridiculous decisions of late ! Even aided by the help of clear replays they come to those conclusions.

I totally understand the frustration and concerns of VAR, I’m not a massive fan or advocate and it does take something out the game. Why I have to repeat this over and over I’m not sure.

but I don’t want it scraped. I don’t want refs making blind decisions and getting far more ludicrous decisions incorrect. Sorry I have that view and that makes me a c*nt.

VAR is being used all over the world now, it seems to be progressing in other countries and has it reduced attendances and the love of the game ? For you it has which is a shame. For many others it hasn’t at all.

but I agree with the vast majority outside of this forum that law changes to the game and better officiating can make VAR really improve the game. Ultimately that’s what most want.

If VAR doesn’t improve and Dean et al continue to make terrible calls I presume you will join the call for it to be scrapped?

 

[Ribchester]

Are you not more Angry at Man City and Pep Guardiola for voting in favour for VAR to the PL ? Is Pep a c*nt for wanting it ?

what have I actually done wrong. I don’t work for FIFA or the FA and have never had a say whether or not it can be introduced, I’m just someone on a forum that try’s to have a balanced debate about VAR without resorting to pathetic abuse.

to answer your point. On diving. I think clear dives with zero contact has dramatically decreased, loads in fact. There has been a few given this season and that Martial one is farcical, I’m not going to defend that at all. That’s not on me neither all the future controversy that will always happen. I would love a system in place that can eradicate diving all together - I don’t think it’s possible as so much of it is based on perception and it’s why you have so many pundits and fans argue whether it is or not.

if there was no VAR and a ref gives a penalty for a blatant dive , should I get angry and abusive at you and say ‘if we had VAR a ref wouldn’t have given the penalty’ . It works both ways.

No system is ever going to be perfect. So you can live in a world of anger and moan and moan at every decision or you can try and embrace change and give a balanced perspective of what can improve.

An improvement for me would be to put Mason + Dean on trial to answer for there ridiculous decisions of late ! Even aided by the help of clear replays they come to those conclusions.

I totally understand the frustration and concerns of VAR, I’m not a massive fan or advocate and it does take something out the game. Why I have to repeat this over and over I’m not sure.

but I don’t want it scraped. I don’t want refs making blind decisions and getting far more ludicrous decisions incorrect. Sorry I have that view and that makes me a c*nt.

VAR is being used all over the world now, it seems to be progressing in other countries and has it reduced attendances and the love of the game ? For you it has which is a shame. For many others it hasn’t at all.

but I agree with the vast majority outside of this forum that law changes to the game and better officiating can make VAR really improve the game. Ultimately that’s what most want.

Can’t disagree, I hate VAR, but our game is that corrupt in a perverse way I’d hate it to be scrapped now, imagine how much more these bent refs will get away with, and then hide behind the old it’s a hard job, got to admire them blah blah blah. This season has highlighted how shit they are, even if it hasn’t delivered real time decisions. I bet they rue the day it was agreed to now,
Expect things to get worse for the Hammers as you won’t have a cat in hells chance of taking 4th spot they will see to that.
As for us I think they will start giving us things or stop taking from us now they have failed in this seasons mission, thereby it will appear all is fair and above board.

 

[BlueHammer85]

If VAR doesn’t improve and Dean et al continue to make terrible calls I presume you will join the call for it to be scrapped?

I’ll happily see it scrapped now to be honest, the constant moaning and ‘it’s killing the game’ is tedious- just deep down I’d prefer some sort of system in place for a Ref to have a chance to see if he’s implemented the right decision and not been forced into making a split second choice.

what would you prefer -

A) Salah does a ridiculous dive with no contact - the refs angle and speed. It looks a penalty. He gives the penalty.

or

B) Salah does a ridiculous dive with no contact - the refs angle and speed. It looks a penalty. He gives the penalty. Had a quick look on monitor, realises he made the wrong choice and reverses the decision.

...

 

[give it to gordon]

Was VAR working at Anfield ?

Have we seen any evidence that VAR was working.

I don't buy papers etc so I havent seen any pictures of the off side goal yet , so I guess I have to believe VAR was working. Us fans are treated like shit,

The fa/ refs "oh shit dont show the off side goal pictures as it looks on side. No one will question us not showing lads its Anfield." Allegedly.

 

[bluetonium]

Thought Stones was offside as watched live, but the replay showed it was close. Warranted a further check I feel, but seemingly the var referee took a first look and saw no reason to question the decision. But for the fans, for transparency and fairness, does we need to see the lines to show their thinking? Even if they are drawing lines from different parts of the arm or foot, and not being too picky about which frame to use when the ball actually is passed on?

I read when VAR was first implemented that Old Trafford and Anfield were the only premier league ground not to be able to provide a pitchside monitor for referees. Aside from the idiocy of that situation, is that still the case now? If so does that affecting decisions, not being about to refer it to the tv for the referee to review?

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Commentators on Stones' 'goal'...'it looked offside but VAR will look at it' a very short time later 'oh VAR not looking at it as it was a clear offside but it looked very close to me'. No surprise it wasn't looked at. I thought all 'goals' were looked at by VAR no matter the circumstances?

 

[Blue Mist]

I’ll happily see it scrapped now to be honest, the constant moaning and ‘it’s killing the game’ is tedious- just deep down I’d prefer some sort of system in place for a Ref to have a chance to see if he’s implemented the right decision and not been forced into making a split second choice.

what would you prefer -

A) Salah does a ridiculous dive with no contact - the refs angle and speed. It looks a penalty. He gives the penalty.

or

B) Salah does a ridiculous dive with no contact - the refs angle and speed. It looks a penalty. He gives the penalty. Had a quick look on monitor, realises he made the wrong choice and reverses the decision.

...

Can I have some of your meds please.
You give 2 choices but neither happened. The third choice is Salah dives the gives it but reviews it on the monitor and then books the cheat for diving. There is no point in having VAR if they agree with the ref in virtually every instance.
Why was the offside goal ruled out? Instead of the usual 2 minutes of lines and movement I get to see, I had one replay.
It is corrupt

 

[Hayley Croppers chopper]

Are you not more Angry at Man City and Pep Guardiola for voting in favour for VAR to the PL ? Is Pep a c*nt for wanting it ?

what have I actually done wrong. I don’t work for FIFA or the FA and have never had a say whether or not it can be introduced, I’m just someone on a forum that try’s to have a balanced debate about VAR without resorting to pathetic abuse.

to answer your point. On diving. I think clear dives with zero contact has dramatically decreased, loads in fact. There has been a few given this season and that Martial one is farcical, I’m not going to defend that at all. That’s not on me neither all the future controversy that will always happen. I would love a system in place that can eradicate diving all together - I don’t think it’s possible as so much of it is based on perception and it’s why you have so many pundits and fans argue whether it is or not.

if there was no VAR and a ref gives a penalty for a blatant dive , should I get angry and abusive at you and say ‘if we had VAR a ref wouldn’t have given the penalty’ . It works both ways.

No system is ever going to be perfect. So you can live in a world of anger and moan and moan at every decision or you can try and embrace change and give a balanced perspective of what can improve.

An improvement for me would be to put Mason + Dean on trial to answer for there ridiculous decisions of late ! Even aided by the help of clear replays they come to those conclusions.

I totally understand the frustration and concerns of VAR, I’m not a massive fan or advocate and it does take something out the game. Why I have to repeat this over and over I’m not sure.

but I don’t want it scraped. I don’t want refs making blind decisions and getting far more ludicrous decisions incorrect. Sorry I have that view and that makes me a c*nt.

VAR is being used all over the world now, it seems to be progressing in other countries and has it reduced attendances and the love of the game ? For you it has which is a shame. For many others it hasn’t at all.

but I agree with the vast majority outside of this forum that law changes to the game and better officiating can make VAR really improve the game. Ultimately that’s what most want.

No,you are just a very naughty boy.