Coronavirus (2021) thread

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johnnymarrsbarres said:
Personally I wouldn’t believe a word of anything coming from the Chinese authorities.
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They did say lockdowns worked and, despite years of evidence suggesting they didn’t, the west fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Chinese growth rate so far in 2021 is 8.5% and they actually grew by nearly 3% in 2020!
Who needs to start a war………..
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Looks rather like the EU lost this one.

“The Court of First Instance in Brussels has ruled that AZ must deliver 80.2 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine by 27 September 2021.In its legal action against AZ, the EC had requested 120 million vaccine doses cumulatively by the end of June 2021, and a total of 300 million doses by the end of September – substantially more than the Court has ordered.”
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It looks a bit of a fudge with both sides winning / losing a bit
 
Cases across the regions:


Change in last 24 hrs V seven days ago


SOUTH


East DOWN UP 14 to 443 V 299

London DOWN 28 to 1172 V 962

South East DOWN 80 to 802 V 586

South West DOWN 71 to 739 V 396


No sign yet of NW style rises in thes other regions bar SW.




MIDLANDS



East down 12 to 551 V 351

West DOWN 18 to 659 V 423



Much the same story here.




NORTH



North East UP 109 to 742 V 451 - Doubled in the week and up 6 times in a month another big rise today.


Yorkshire UP 38 to 991 V 700 - also up a little but not rising as fast as NE.



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NORTH WEST DOWN 216 to 2538 V 2191 - A good fall. Most of it in Greater Manchester wk to wk.




Past weeks NW numbers are 2191 - 2134 - 2262 - 2017 - 2157 - 2858 - 2754 - 2538

Equivalent NW numbers a week earlier 1755 - 1752 - 1605 - 1673 - 1840 - 2112 - 2317 - 2191

GM numbers in past week 1098 - 1037 - 1103 - 1014 - 925 - 1341 - 1306 - 1151


GMs contrbution to the NW total is getting smaller and smaller. Fell by 30% over the week.
 
Full GM details:


Total cases 1151 - DOWN 155 on Yesterday - from NW fall of 216. Well over 50% so good.

Wk to wk UP 53 when the NW rises by 347 - which is far below expectations of around 170.

So GM had another good day wk to wk relative to rest of the region.


BOROUGH / CASES TODAY / V YESTERDAY / V LAST WEEK



BOLTON 94 / DOWN 31 / DOWN 40

BURY 79 / DOWN 12 / UP 11

MANCHESTER 319 / DOWN 8 / UP 67

OLDHAM 92 / DOWN 11 / UP 27

ROCHDALE 75 / DOWN 10 / DOWN 17

SALFORD 114 / DOWN 31 / DOWN 19

STOCKPORT 94 / UP 8 / LEVEL

TAMESIDE 72 / DOWN 4 / UP 3

TRAFFORD 70 / DOWN 37 / UP 2

WIGAN 152 / DOWN 9 / UP 29


Stockport had the worst day after the best yesterday - the only one up on the day and just level week to week.

Several places down on both including Bolton that matched Stockport's score for the first time in weeks.

Manchester's still in the 300s and up the most week to week and Wigan nearest to them.

All in all a good day.
 
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Greater Manchester

Weekly total cases:-




Tameside 482, Rochdale 507, Oldham 528, Trafford 576, Stockport 580, Bury 626, Bolton 740, Salford 861. Wigan 992, Manchester 1995.



Manchester almost 2000 now and Salford and Wigan both ahead of Bolton with Wigan closing in on four figures.

Stockport's good few days see it fall back even more and almost catch Trafford. And even though not falling today still made up ground as they did not go up and Trafford did.

Only Tameside sub 500 now.
 
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Rammy Blue said:
AZ didn’t lose any part of it in reality as they’ve already delivered the vast majority of the doses they were ordered to deliver.
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Both parties lost a bit when they went to court. A customer and a supplier becoming adversaries isn’t a win. I accept these AZ are likely to meet the doses requirement set by the Courts.
news.sky.com

COVID-19: AstraZeneca and EU both claim win as court rules on vaccine supply row

AstraZeneca says the court ruling acknowledged the difficulties of meeting supplies in an "unprecedented situation".
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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Looks rather like the EU lost this one.

“The Court of First Instance in Brussels has ruled that AZ must deliver 80.2 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine by 27 September 2021.In its legal action against AZ, the EC had requested 120 million vaccine doses cumulatively by the end of June 2021, and a total of 300 million doses by the end of September – substantially more than the Court has ordered.”
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Yes and no. AZ will be relieved they don’t have to meet the EU’s vaccine demands and are unlikely to face fines.

However for the bloc it wasn’t about number of dosages. Politico had a good breakdown of the judgement.

‘But this case was never really about the doses. The Commission’s case was about proving AstraZeneca was wrong. Here, the EU succeeded.

"The judgment has recognized that AstraZeneca has breached, perhaps intentionally, at least seriously, the contract," a lawyer representing the Commission said. "Therefore on the principles and the way that the contract must be performed in the future, the judgment is entirely satisfying."

The judge stated ‘It seems [AstraZeneca] freely violated its contractual guarantee," citing a contract provision clearly stating that AstraZeneca didn't have any other competing contracts to block its obligations to the EU.

For AZ - ‘the judge refused the Commission’s request to create a binding delivery schedule for the rest of the 220 million doses, calling it "premature" because it's too soon to say whether the company will fall short on its full schedule of obligations.’

Irrespective of the Courts decision, the fact remains AZ has been sidelined by the bloc and by several European countries with Pfizer winning the contract to provide a further 1.8 billion doses into next year.

AZ’s argument that it made ‘best endeavours’ was struck down which is a major problem for a pharma company wishing to do future business with the bloc.
 
BobKowalski said:
Yes and no. AZ will be relieved they don’t have to meet the EU’s vaccine demands and are unlikely to face fines.

However for the bloc it wasn’t about number of dosages. Politico had a good breakdown of the judgement.

‘But this case was never really about the doses. The Commission’s case was about proving AstraZeneca was wrong. Here, the EU succeeded.

"The judgment has recognized that AstraZeneca has breached, perhaps intentionally, at least seriously, the contract," a lawyer representing the Commission said. "Therefore on the principles and the way that the contract must be performed in the future, the judgment is entirely satisfying."

The judge stated ‘It seems [AstraZeneca] freely violated its contractual guarantee," citing a contract provision clearly stating that AstraZeneca didn't have any other competing contracts to block its obligations to the EU.

For AZ - ‘the judge refused the Commission’s request to create a binding delivery schedule for the rest of the 220 million doses, calling it "premature" because it's too soon to say whether the company will fall short on its full schedule of obligations.’

Irrespective of the Courts decision, the fact remains AZ has been sidelined by the bloc and by several European countries with Pfizer winning the contract to provide a further 1.8 billion doses into next year.

AZ’s argument that it made ‘best endeavours’ was struck down which is a major problem for a pharma company wishing to do future business with the bloc.
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I agree mate. it wasn’t really about the EU wanting many millions of extra doses.
 
GM Weekly Pop Data after today:~

Borough / Pop Today / 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.


Manchester 361 / 298 / UP 63 Testing positive 10.7%

Salford 332 / 306 / UP 26 Testing positive 10.0%

Bury 328 / 265 / UP 63 Testing positive 10,0%

Wigan 302 / 228 / UP 74 Testing positive 9.7%

Bolton 258 / 301 / DOWN 43 Testing positive 11.3%

Trafford 240 / 195 / UP 45 Testing positive 7.7%

Rochdale 231 / 206 / UP 25 Testing positive 10.4 %

Oldham 223 / 173 / UP 50 Testing positive 10.4%

Tameside 213 / 161 / UP 52 Testing positive 8.7%

Stockport 197 / 229 / DOWN 32 Testing positive 7.9%


Manchester pulling clear from Salford and Bury now also in the 300s alomg with Wigan too. Making 4 boroughs over 300 for first time in many months.

And none of them Bolton.

Inded remarkably Trafford is close to going above Bolton too.

Stockport still the only botough below 200 though it stayed still today.

Trafford regained some of the lead on overall Pop Score on Stockport with a better day today now on 7748 with Stockport on 7893 - increasing the lead to 145.

Bolton is on its lowest Pop Score for nearly 6 weeks. Basically since Delta arrived.

Bolton unsurprisingly given its recent big numbers still has the highest GM Pop Score on 11, 274.

However, there are now 5 boroughs in the 10,000 club - Manchester on 10, 734. Rochdale on 10, 385 and Oldham 10, 393. Neck and neck there.

Salford which went into the 10 K club yesterday are on 10, 046.

But Bury became number 5 in GM today on 10030.

So there will be only 4 boroughs sub 10,000 tomorrow. Trafford and Stockport months away bar a disater in either. And Tameside many weeks off too bar the same.

But Wigan's bad numbers took them to 9703 and if they continue at this rate could cut it to 3 not over 10K by the week after next.

Hopefully not.

Tameside possibly may get there too this side of autumn - at 8715 is a good few weeks away from going into five figures.
 
GM VACCINE UPDATE:


Latest Vaccine Update by Population Percentage for 10 GM boroughs

Borough/ First Dose / Both Doses - TODAY V YESTERDAY



BOLTON 74.6% / 53.3 % V 74.5 / 52.9%

BURY 75.7% / 54.6% V 75.6% / 54.4%

MANCHESTER 56.8% / 33.8% V 56.3% / 33.6%

OLDHAM 69.8% / 51.5% V 69.6% / 51.1%

ROCHDALE 72.1% / 50.0% V 72.0% / 49.9%

SALFORD 63.6 % / 42. 5% V 63.1% / 42.4%

STOCKPORT 79.4% / 58.5% V 78.9% / 58.2%

TAMESIDE 74.8% / 55.4% V 74.1% / 54.7%

TRAFFORD 76.1% / 55,4% V 75.9% / 54.9%

WIGAN 78.3% / 57.4% V 77.8% / 57.0%


Stockport in next couple of days set to be first GM borough to have reached 80% of Population with one dose and 60% with both. And despite being so far ahead of Manchester still added even today a hugher percentage of new doses. What is holding Manchester back?

The case number differential is as stark as the vaccination number difference and Bolton got quickly uder control after a swidt increase in numbers there which were not that much better than Manchester when Delta arrived.

Seems very odd this is not being improved upon in the city.
 
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feedthegoat27 said:
Play silly games, win silly prizes.

Yorkshire dad facing prison in Singapore after being secretly filmed on train without a facemask - YorkshireLive (examinerlive.co.uk)

You can see the video of him acting like a prize pillock on the below link.
What a dickhead.

'I hate seeing uncles, granddads with the mask on': Man, 39, arrested after refusing to wear mask on MRT, Singapore News - AsiaOne
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Singapore is one of the few places you want to be playing the Billy big bollocks and breaking the law. I've been there lots of times and it's a great City. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets three strokes of the cane as well, here's hoping.
 
paulchapo said:
Singapore is one of the few places you want to be playing the Billy big bollocks and breaking the law. I've been there lots of times and it's a great City. It wouldn't surprise me if he gets three strokes of the cane as well, here's hoping.
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Agreed..he won't fuck about again
 
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