NHS Pay Award,letter to Johnson from my union,please sign if you can

MellowJoe said:
Why is 2k the magic number? It's awful nurses don't earn enough, and firemen, and those in the types of jobs where any normal person would have to be insane to do them.
The way things work, the NHS staff should ask for 5k more, then they might actually get 2..
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believe it or not
last year we were offered a vote,unison.
£1k
£2k
or £3k for the rise we wanted

I voted £3,000,but unison said the vote result was for £2,000,and thats what they have gone for since.
 
tweety said:
Nurses/doctors earn significantly more than the living wage while millions struggle on the minimum wage. Who is the most deserving? The country has to pay these wages and we are walking into economic oblivion, the well will run dry very soon!
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I’m sure the bankers agree
 
pirate said:
i agree that the poorest need to be paid more
are these very low paid workers employed by the government? the answer is no
are you arguing that because the private sector is screwing over the poor means its ok for the government to screw over the health workers?
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I've no axe to grind with NHS workers, but why are they seen as more deserving than others who are earning fuck all in comparison. Who pays for this pay rise?
 
blue44 said:
believe it or not
last year we were offered a vote,unison.
£1k
£2k
or £3k for the rise we wanted

I voted £3,000,but unison said the vote result was for £2,000,and thats what they have gone for since.
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thats nice and transparent
sadly unison are negotiating with boris' lot
they are not transparent at all. for example they cant even say what the 37 billion given to dido harding to set up the test and trace system was spent on and why there isnt a functioning test and trace system
 
pirate said:
thats nice and transparent
sadly unison are negotiating with boris' lot
they are not transparent at all. for example they cant even say what the 37 billion given to dido harding to set up the test and trace system was spent on and why there isnt a functioning test and trace system
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all the unions say
if they give the entire nhs staff a 15% rise
it would cost roughly 4.5 billion
nowt really,like when you say,the 37 ,i heard 38 billion that has been spunked up a wall the last year with track and trace
 
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pirate said:
nurses earn average money at best

average wage of 21 year old in uk is 20,800 rising to 28,100 by the age of 29
nurses wage on qualification 22,000. average age of a student nurse is 29
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£24,907 is the lowest wage for a qualified nurse.
 
tweety said:
I've no axe to grind with NHS workers, but why are they seen as more deserving than others who are earning fuck all in comparison. Who pays for this pay rise?
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like i have previously said

meet my mrs ,who worked on ITU for 14 months
she is BAME,she is an immigrant
she, and me were scared shitless last year both working in our local hospital,worried about our son
who had to attend school when we were both rotored in,increasing his chances of contracting covid
she saw her best friend who worked with her die,she caught covid and was dead within 3 weeks
she saw families distraught every single day
incorrect PPE in the beginning
i could go on and on and on

she did all of that for £9.20 per hour on 12 hour shifts
 
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tweety said:
I've no axe to grind with NHS workers, but why are they seen as more deserving than others who are earning fuck all in comparison. Who pays for this pay rise?
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for your first point
they are not more deserving, its just that they are employed by us, the people via our elected representatives, so we get a say in how they are paid.
most of the lowest paid workers are employed in the private sector, so we dont get a say in what they are paid.
the only way we can effect change for the private sector employees is to vote for representatives who want to increase the minimum wage. i am up for that and do so at every election.
to reach the level of newly qualified nurses you would need to raise the minimum wage from 8.71 to 10.71
happy to support that

for the second point
to pay for government employees, then the government needs to raise more money, thats higher taxes.
as a higher rate taxpayer i am more than happy to pay more tax to fund public sector pay rises.

to pay for private sector pay rises then companies would have to increase the costs of their goods and services
 
tweety said:
I've no axe to grind with NHS workers, but why are they seen as more deserving than others who are earning fuck all in comparison. Who pays for this pay rise?
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You could've fooled me, I'm on £9.89 an hour and I and my NHS work colleges have worked all the way through this shit fest (apart from when I was off April last year with Covid) I know you're probably on a wind up but you're really starting to boil my piss.
 
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pirate said:
when i looked it up it said 22,000 from the Royal college of nursing, but ok i might be wrong
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In 2017 it was, you need to check the date. I have nurses in my family, one is a Modern Matron on a good wage. Like I said earlier I'm not against them getting a pay rise by any means but it isn't that bad a wage.

The scanadal really is the fees etc to train these days, 10/20 years ago you got decent money to qualify and the wages were increased a lot under Gordon Brown. Then there was a problem with too many passing diplomas for qualified jobs, and now it is the opposite again. There are good promotion oppertunities and it is a decent career path in my opinion. Some people fly up the bands.
 
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moggymoz said:
You could've fooled me, I'm on £9.89 an hour and I and my NHS work colleges have worked all the way through this shit fest (apart from when I was off April last year with Covid) I know you're probably on a wind up but your really starting to boil my piss.
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they clapped us
now they slap us ,mate.
i'm off to sleep
another eight hour shift tomorrow
 
Many industries have worked through the pandemic and wont be getting a pay rise either.

Wages within the NHS can be poor or brilliant depending on your role.

My advice,you don't like your terms and conditions or the job you applied for...then find another that suits better.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Many industries have worked through the pandemic and wont be getting a pay rise either.

Wages within the NHS can be poor or brilliant depending on your role.

My advice,you don't like your terms and conditions or the job you applied for...then find another that suits better.
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healthcare is a single payer system, where do they find these other jobs pray tell
 
moggymoz said:
You could've fooled me, I'm on £9.89 an hour and I and my NHS work colleges have worked all the way through this shit fest (apart from when I was off April last year with Covid) I know you're probably on a wind up but your really starting to boil my piss.
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Dealt with the sudden death of a 1 year old baby tonight after cardiac arrest. Awful. Been in hospital all night with paramedics to A&E staff to consultant paediatricians. The work of everyone there is unimaginable, and incredible. A&E was like a zoo with morons there. Around all that they were dealing with this and other genuine emergencies coming in constantly. Anyone who doesnt get it is a ****, so just ignore them.
 
Uncle Wally One Ball said:
Dealt with the sudden death of a 1 year old baby tonight after cardiac arrest. Awful. Been in hospital all night with paramedics to A&E staff to consultant paediatricians. The work of everyone there is unimaginable, and incredible. A&E was like a zoo with morons there. Around all that they were dealing with this and other genuine emergencies coming in constantly. Anyone who doesnt get it is a ****, so just ignore them.
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in my job
i have to prepare a " harebell" sometimes
when i get told i have to do that i know what has happened
it breaks my heart
a new born baby has died
its a constant but always stops you in your tracks and makes you think
 
blue44 said:
in my job
i have to prepare a " harebell" sometimes
when i get told i have to do that i know what has happened
it breaks my heart
a new born baby has died
its a constant but always stops you in your tracks and makes you think
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Horribly sad and unenviable,and thankfully something 99% of folk never have to witness or deal with.That sort of episode never leaves you.
 
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