Ref Watch

GaudinoMotors said:
All the websites and social media calling the refs and ex refs out for corruption and not one single lawsuit. Funny that. Almost as if they don't want a day in court.
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The current head of the PiGMOL is as bent a they come.

As an organisation it does nothing to dispel the accusations of corruption, instead choosing to thumb its nose and stick two fingers up at anyone and everyone who dares to question them.

Until they make the process transparent, accountable and allow themselves to be independently audited then nothing will ever change.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
The current head of the PiGMOL is as bent a they come.

As an organisation it does nothing to dispel the accusations of corruption, instead choosing to thumb its nose and stick two fingers up at anyone and everyone who dares to question them.

Until they make the process transparent, accountable and allow themselves to be independently audited then nothing will ever change.
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so true, Its so secretive and unaccountable yet is effectively in charge of a billion pound industry.
 
Whilst I was as upset as everyone on here with the officials performance yesterday, I am amazed that anyone can actually call into question the integrity of the officials and their leadership.
Incompetent they may appear, but actually 'bent' they are not. We lose the argument taking this stance and with no actual evidence leave our credibility at a lower level than the people we accuse.
I had 37 years as a referee, covering games from parks to efl level and never at any time have I even heard of a 'supposed' story relating to referees being bent. Ive met some great refs, some good ones and the odd bloody awful ones, but 99.9% of them were reffing cos they loved the game and wanted to put something back into it.
Lets criticise them by all means, but I still believe they just get things wrong, even with VAR. A change at the top is however long overdue.
 
East Level 2 said:
So nothing about (second) yellow cards as I said, and Milner's late offence is the most clear cut regarding the incompetence showed by Tierney yesterday.
The Foden incident looked like a foul, initially outside the box. It might have been given had he gone down after the stumble (as ALL rags and dippers would have done) rather than stayed on his feet. That shouldn't affect whether an offence has been committed and VAR should have reviewed whether it was inside the box. - It's possible VAR did review it and either decided it wasn't a foul or that it was outside the box. I don't believe VAR can call for a free kick once they've decided it was outside the box.
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What I just don't buy is that the ref gives NOTHING for this incident, but that's a story for a different thread about "default refereeing decisions based up teams playing". At least Pep had the balls to call it out.

I'm still annoyed about the Foden/Milner incident, don't get me started on the Bernardo/Milner incident, didn't realise that was what your original post was about.

On the Foden/Milner incident, we can only assume that he sees nothing in it; nothing in the push or the clip to warrant a foul.
Fair (?) enough, that's his opinion, but where's the VAR that saw a Bernardo trip in the build up to one of our goals not so long ago. Where's THAT eagle-eyed VAR.
There was a push. There was a clip.
Once again they're hiding behind the "clear and obvious" bollocks, which IMO has been put into the wording of the VAR remit primarily to uphold the arbitrary and probably corrupt on-field decisions given by PiGMol to their darlings and against "the ugly step-sister" with impunity

Just crazy for me that the on-field ref gives nowt.
 
blueandy1mac said:
Whilst I was as upset as everyone on here with the officials performance yesterday, I am amazed that anyone can actually call into question the integrity of the officials and their leadership.
Incompetent they may appear, but actually 'bent' they are not. We lose the argument taking this stance and with no actual evidence leave our credibility at a lower level than the people we accuse.
I had 37 years as a referee, covering games from parks to efl level and never at any time have I even heard of a 'supposed' story relating to referees being bent. Ive met some great refs, some good ones and the odd bloody awful ones, but 99.9% of them were reffing cos they loved the game and wanted to put something back into it.
Lets criticise them by all means, but I still believe they just get things wrong, even with VAR. A change at the top is however long overdue.
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Explain Reilly at the Swamp v Arsenal???
 
blueandy1mac said:
Whilst I was as upset as everyone on here with the officials performance yesterday, I am amazed that anyone can actually call into question the integrity of the officials and their leadership.
Incompetent they may appear, but actually 'bent' they are not. We lose the argument taking this stance and with no actual evidence leave our credibility at a lower level than the people we accuse.
I had 37 years as a referee, covering games from parks to efl level and never at any time have I even heard of a 'supposed' story relating to referees being bent. Ive met some great refs, some good ones and the odd bloody awful ones, but 99.9% of them were reffing cos they loved the game and wanted to put something back into it.
Lets criticise them by all means, but I still believe they just get things wrong, even with VAR. A change at the top is however long overdue.
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You are part of the problem then , look closer
 
blueandy1mac said:
Whilst I was as upset as everyone on here with the officials performance yesterday, I am amazed that anyone can actually call into question the integrity of the officials and their leadership.
Incompetent they may appear, but actually 'bent' they are not. We lose the argument taking this stance and with no actual evidence leave our credibility at a lower level than the people we accuse.
I had 37 years as a referee, covering games from parks to efl level and never at any time have I even heard of a 'supposed' story relating to referees being bent. Ive met some great refs, some good ones and the odd bloody awful ones, but 99.9% of them were reffing cos they loved the game and wanted to put something back into it.
Lets criticise them by all means, but I still believe they just get things wrong, even with VAR. A change at the top is however long overdue.
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How would you explain it then, as nearly every game v our rivals it's always us on the wrong end of these decisions, if it balanced out over time I could agree but it doesn't.
 
My own belief is that whilst there may be some corruption I think at Old Trafford and Anfield (especially) a lot of refs don't give decisions because, think about it - would you? You send off Milner and some friendly scally is waiting for you after the game with a brick through your car window onto your head. Subconsciously they are probably thinking genuinely of their own safety. Its not like the police are gonna protect you there - they won't see it even if the evidence is given to them giftwrapped in 4K
 
Jesus H Gabz said:
Despot Dermot is probably still a fully paid up Pigmol “advisor” & Sky employee, no way he goes against his pay masters, they have this routine of making it sound similar to the goalkeepers union when he supports crooked decisions, just another stooge taking money to control the overall narrative & protect “the product”
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He’s there as part of the whitewashing of events that may do harm to the brand.
 
Gingers Dad said:
Never seen this programme before is Gallagher on every week? Sky's equivalent of BT's Peter 'I don't actually know the rules' Walton
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He is there to tell the sheep that all the bad decisions by the referees are fair and correct decisions especially when it comes to the scum and the scousers! Riley and this stooge are puppets for the history clubs always said Riley phone should be tapped he is bent as ten bob note!
 
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blueandy1mac said:
Whilst I was as upset as everyone on here with the officials performance yesterday, I am amazed that anyone can actually call into question the integrity of the officials and their leadership.
Incompetent they may appear, but actually 'bent' they are not. We lose the argument taking this stance and with no actual evidence leave our credibility at a lower level than the people we accuse.
I had 37 years as a referee, covering games from parks to efl level and never at any time have I even heard of a 'supposed' story relating to referees being bent. Ive met some great refs, some good ones and the odd bloody awful ones, but 99.9% of them were reffing cos they loved the game and wanted to put something back into it.
Lets criticise them by all means, but I still believe they just get things wrong, even with VAR. A change at the top is however long overdue.
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When it’s this blatant what do you expect? Being a “bent” referee comes in all shapes & sizes, it doesn’t just mean money has changed hands, we are calling the integrity of the referee into question here. If he lost his bottle, was influenced by the crowd or anything similar then he should not be refereeing at any level, he is paid a kings ransom compared to some in society & is apparently a “professional” referee, this wasn’t a mistake, this wasn’t missed, I genuinely believe it was premeditated, could I prove that? No, but it’s my opinion, whether it was to ensure an even contest or other far flung accusations which have been covered on here already I’m not sure, but I haven’t heard one person say Milner deserved to stay on the pitch, that tackle was reckless & intended on stopping Bernie at all costs, had the referee called Milner over he would probably of just walked off knowing what was coming
 
I don't think Sky showed the replay of the ref blowing but I was sure he awarded the free for the foul by Henderson which kind of shoved Silva over Milner. There was a stat a few pages back that some sums up this ref and his employers, no red card since December 2020. All Mike Riley wants is to be left alone, if you want to progress you simply don't make decisions. Stay out of trouble until it blows over and you have Old Trafford next Saturday.

It's not corruption, Sterling is lying in front of the keeper (presumably offside), if its corruption then its not very difficult to get the outcome you want by simply ruling that one out. It's incompetence and cowardice but it all stems from that **** at the top. Look at him? He's a weasel, skinny, small, bald, typical weasel. This thread will reach a million pages unless he's replaced.
 
Does anyone else feel we had a number of decisions go against us/ did not get awarded yesterday and is this a sign of what's to come this season? Personally I was amazed that Milner did not see a red, looking in slow motion from another angle Bernardo landed on his head! this could have ended up with him breaking his neck! and also we didn't even get a free kick when Foden was shoved in the box.
 
Lancsblue60 said:
Does anyone else feel we had a number of decisions go against us/ did not get awarded yesterday and is this a sign of what's to come this season? Personally I was amazed that Milner did not see a red, looking in slow motion from another angle Bernardo landed on his head! this could have ended up with him breaking his neck! and also we didn't even get a free kick when Foden was shoved in the box.
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I've not seen any of this discussed elsewhere, but yes, I agree, there were a few strange decisions yesterday.
 
Sly have got Sue Smith holding the sick bucket for Dermie to puke into after he had to go against a fellow Ref and side with City.
Still sewer rats the lot of them on that show
 
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