Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

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Just read that.

Surely City's legal team will be on to that?
I'm hoping this will push the Saudis into testing the legal basis for preventing a business owner investing as much as they like in their own business. Something city seemed to have not done previously to keep the peace for long term gain. I think the PL is risking overplaying a weak hand here though.
 
I'm hoping this will push the Saudis into testing the legal basis for preventing a business owner investing as much as they like in their own business. Something city seemed to have not done previously to keep the peace for long term gain. I think the PL is risking overplaying a weak hand here though.

The only problem being, have the Saudis got enough money to mount a serious legal challenge?
 
Related party transactions aren’t illegal in the world of business. They’re not even illegal in the world of FFP, yet all these clubs think they can just vote to override the current FFP regs. That’s bent as fuck if you ask me. Funny how none of them complained about related party transactions up at Newcastle when Mike Ashley’s Sports Direct sponsored them for years under his ownership. Ditto Stoke and Bet365.

Surely Newcastle have a case to take strong legal action against all those clubs who voted in favour of this.
 
Crucial they do what we do, and get some steel and experience in first. We were actually in a relegation scrap until we got the likes of Bellamy, Given and De Jong in. Supplement the quality in after you have strenghted the core
I think all three have retired.
 
It really is scandalous clubs attempting to block investment into another club. And for any lurking Geordies reading this, City have had to fight this kind of shit for over a decade, and if you were one of those mouthy twats who had a pop at City then tough shit, welcome to the real world.

It is scandalous. It cant be legal.

But it's ok to be sponsored by dodge banks who are fined 1.2 billion for money laundering.

I told a Newcastle fan ( another forum ) over a year ago that this sort of thing would happen. He just laughed and sided with the other club fans saying City had broken this that and the other lol. Wonder what he thinks now lolol. Didnt believe the American own clubs would cause problems for them etc !
 
https://theathletic.com/news/newcas...blocked-by-premier-league-clubs/2ftjnu6VjcFg/

The Athletic describing City as an Abu Dhabi owned club. It's beyond a joke how many people get this wrong these days and that City do nothing to correct mistakes like this and others.

The Abu Dhabi owned club have been accused of benefitting from related party transactions in the past.


Back on topic though:

I thought everyone knew related party sponsorships and commercial deals were never banned, they have been regulated from the introduction of FFP though. Any related party deals, still have to meet Fair Market Value requirements with UEFA's credited auditors. If the PL doesn't have a similar rule in place, then that's what they should be looking at instead. To ban them all together, would be a step too far and I can see what City are saying... So why can't any of our supposedly well educated journalists, see what City are saying in that statement?

City aren't saying this just because of a self interest in their own deals. UEFA's own auditors couldn't show the Etihad deal to be inflated, all the way back to 2014. The idea that they didn't look into it before then, is unlikely to me. They would have been looking into it from day 1 of that Etihad deal signed in 2011. Meaning, that it's very likely that the Etihad deal in particular, was never considered to be inflated by their own auditors, at any point. The CAS, as others have said, did not deem Etihad to be a related party either. So that argument fails on two counts.
 
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Watched them yesterday and they were poor, they are going down with a billion in the bank :)

In the long run it isn't going to hurt them at all though, it's just a matter of time until they get it right.
True, but that long run gets even longer if they do drop, they then have to go up again without the inclusion of far better players.
 
So wearing a tea towel on your head is classed as racial discrimination.

When will these PC c*nts finally jump off the moral bandwagon? They are all trying to out do each other, and are all falling over each other to show they are more PC than each other. Too much power, influence, and money on their hands, with f*ck all else to do.

Good luck with the workshops in Newcastle.

Sportsmail has learned the equality and inclusion group are likely to offer education workshops in Newcastle to fans to explain how wearing tea towels in an attempt to impersonate Arabs could be considered racist, offensive, or culturally insensitive.

Senior figures at the FA are also concerned by the situation, and may become involved if it is not dealt with by the club.

The sight of many members of the Toon Army wearing tea towels was particularly jarring as it took place at the Premier League's No Room for Racism campaign, which will run over the next fortnight with fans being asked to challenge and report any incidents of discrimination.
 
So wearing a tea towel on your head is classed as racial discrimination.

When will these PC c*nts finally jump off the moral bandwagon? They are all trying to out do each other, and are all falling over each other to show they are more PC than each other. Too much power, influence, and money on their hands, with f*ck all else to do.

Good luck with the workshops in Newcastle.

Sportsmail has learned the equality and inclusion group are likely to offer education workshops in Newcastle to fans to explain how wearing tea towels in an attempt to impersonate Arabs could be considered racist, offensive, or culturally insensitive.

Senior figures at the FA are also concerned by the situation, and may become involved if it is not dealt with by the club.

The sight of many members of the Toon Army wearing tea towels was particularly jarring as it took place at the Premier League's No Room for Racism campaign, which will run over the next fortnight with fans being asked to challenge and report any incidents of discrimination.
Funny how they never seem to notice all the anti-Arab rhetoric, Islamophobia, xenophobia and racism poured out in the mainstream media. Yet put a tea-towel on your head....

And it's the fucking Mail reporting this as well. That is some irony.
 
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https://theathletic.com/news/newcas...blocked-by-premier-league-clubs/2ftjnu6VjcFg/

The Athletic describing City as an Abu Dhabi owned club. It's beyond a joke how many people get this wrong these days and that City do nothing to correct mistakes like this and others.




Back on topic though:

I thought everyone knew related party sponsorships and commercial deals were never banned, they have been regulated from the introduction of FFP though. Any related party deals, still have to meet Fair Market Value requirements with UEFA's credited auditors. If the PL doesn't have a similar rule in place, then that's what they should be looking at instead. To ban them all together, would be a step too far and I can see what City are saying... So why can't any of our supposedly well educated journalists, see what City are saying in that statement?

City aren't saying this just because of a self interest in their own deals. UEFA's own auditors couldn't show the Etihad deal to be inflated, all the way back to 2014. The idea that they didn't look into it before then, is unlikely to me. They would have been looking into it from day 1 of that Etihad deal signed in 2011. Meaning, that it's very likely that the Etihad deal in particular, was never considered to be inflated by their own auditors, at any point. The CAS, as others have said, did not deem Etihad to be a related party either. So that argument fails on two counts.
The biggest myth among opposition supporters (mainly because they choose to believe it as it suits their narrative) is that the Etihad deal is overinflated. It arguably was at its inception, however, we have qualified for the CL every season for the last decade and won half the PL titles in that time. We have had several genuinely world class players (with the exposure for the club in association with that) during that period too. We are a hugely exposed and successful club. The agreement has also included stadium naming rights for good measure.

Etihad have benefitted enormously out of the arrangement.

The notion that the deal is overinflated now is actually moronic when you look at the wider marketplace. Anyone who believes otherwise is incapable of objective thought, or sinfully thick - or both.

If anything, it’s below current market rates.
 
So wearing a tea towel on your head is classed as racial discrimination.

When will these PC c*nts finally jump off the moral bandwagon? They are all trying to out do each other, and are all falling over each other to show they are more PC than each other. Too much power, influence, and money on their hands, with f*ck all else to do.

Good luck with the workshops in Newcastle.

Sportsmail has learned the equality and inclusion group are likely to offer education workshops in Newcastle to fans to explain how wearing tea towels in an attempt to impersonate Arabs could be considered racist, offensive, or culturally insensitive.

Senior figures at the FA are also concerned by the situation, and may become involved if it is not dealt with by the club.

The sight of many members of the Toon Army wearing tea towels was particularly jarring as it took place at the Premier League's No Room for Racism campaign, which will run over the next fortnight with fans being asked to challenge and report any incidents of discrimination.
God forbid anyone who dresses up in a shell-suit, curly wig & tash, the bloke running the Arabian derby (win a prize) in Blackpool will be fearing for his job
 
To be fair, we talk about United & Liverpool as American-owned clubs because they're owned by Americans. So in that sense, we are an Abu Dhabi-owned club. But we aren't owned BY Abu Dhabi.
Yeah I suppose a lot of fans do describe them as American owned clubs but the distinction doesn't need to be made as much there. I think because City continue to be held to a different standard of scrutiny, the Athletic were trying to push the state owned narrative there(drawing parallels to the Saudi's owning Newcastle). It's not like it would take too much effort from the author to make the correct distinction. Nor would City be being unreasonable by asking them to do so.

Not that me complaining will change anything. I suppose the best thing to do as a fan, since City aren't interested in tackling it directly, is to continue to correct them where we can and not get too wound up by it.
 
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Funny how they never seem to notice all the anti-Arab rhetoric, Islamophobia, xenophobia and racism poured out in the mainstream media. Yet put a tea-towel on your head....

And it's the fucking Mail reporting this as well. That is some irony.
So if a Saudi goes to the Epsom Derby wearing top hat and tails he is being racist and guilty of cultural appropriation?
 
To be fair, we talk about United & Liverpool as American-owned clubs because they're owned by Americans. So in that sense, we are an Abu Dhabi-owned club. But we aren't owned BY Abu Dhabi.
Oh yes we are. That nice Mr Klopp says so, not to mention the Teabag.
 
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