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Gaz (FMwkdsoul)
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Plays like they all do when they are first thrown in, chase the ball like an overeager puppy. No harm he'll calm down and feel settled the more hes about.
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James McAtee
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sadly I think he looks like someone who will mature later in his career. He will take longer to reach the basic level required for us. he has all the ball skills but his football IQ is very poor and he is not getting into a pep anytime soon. he will take I think three more years to reach our level if he gets game time somewhere else. else he can stay with pep but he needs to be patient for atleast two more years before he gets a breakthrough year like cole is getting now.
If someone were to say McAtee won’t make it because he isn’t good enough I’d strongly disagree but I’d respect their opinion. But for someone to come out and say his football intelligence is poor is just absolute nonsense. I could give my phone to my 4 year old daughter and just ask her to mash the keypad and she’d probably come up with a better footballing opinion than that.
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you can say any nonsense you want but that does not change the fact his football IQ is very poor. I have watched him play so many times, he still has no idea when to dribble, when to slow down the game, his game is one paced. that is the major difference between him and palmer and that is why palmer is already in our squad and earning the trust of pep while mcatee is at the periphery.If someone were to say McAtee won’t make it because he isn’t good enough I’d strongly disagree but I’d respect their opinion. But for someone to come out and say his football intelligence is poor is just absolute nonsense. I could give my phone to my 4 year old daughter and just ask her to mash the keypad and she’d probably come up with a better footballing opinion than that.
Kamaro011
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you can say any nonsense you want but that does not change the fact his football IQ is very poor. I have watched him play so many times, he still has no idea when to dribble, when to slow down the game, his game is one paced. that is the major difference between him and palmer and that is why palmer is already in our squad and earning the trust of pep while mcatee is at the periphery.
Make me wish we can see Pep and Coaching team notes about Palmer and McAtee on their daily progress. Will not be shocked that Palmer score highly and get Pep trust more despite being a lesser talent in term of potential than McAtee.
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Gaz (FMwkdsoul)
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Palmers a year ahead, hes bound to be.Make me wish we can see Pep and Coaching team notes about Palmer and McAtee on their daily progress. Will not be shocked that Palmer score highly and get Pep trust more despite being a lesser talent in term of potential than McAtee.
Kamaro011
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Palmers a year ahead, hes bound to be.
You mean in term graduating year?, don't think so. There's people that believe that McAtee is closer to Foden in term of talent, heck some people saying that they are equal.
If he really that good like foden, why he didn't get more playing opportunities at least as same like Foden was when he started joining the first team?
What a load of nonsensesadly I think he looks like someone who will mature later in his career. He will take longer to reach the basic level required for us. he has all the ball skills but his football IQ is very poor and he is not getting into a pep anytime soon. he will take I think three more years to reach our level if he gets game time somewhere else. else he can stay with pep but he needs to be patient for atleast two more years before he gets a breakthrough year like cole is getting now.
I love McAtee but I haven't been impressed by his coach on Twitter, especially today.
I get he's a City fan so he posts like how we would but when you're coaching one of the players at the club and tweeting stuff (like below) it is a bit inappropriate.
(Again, I get he's a blue so I'm not going to slag him off. Especially since I think he's McAtee's shooting coach and McAtee was in great scoring form earlier in the year so the coach is doing something right.)
I get he's a City fan so he posts like how we would but when you're coaching one of the players at the club and tweeting stuff (like below) it is a bit inappropriate.
(Again, I get he's a blue so I'm not going to slag him off. Especially since I think he's McAtee's shooting coach and McAtee was in great scoring form earlier in the year so the coach is doing something right.)
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Gaz (FMwkdsoul)
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Yeah I think his late birthday in the same year put him in the year behind.. palmer graduated in bazunu’s class In 2019. Mcatee was 2020, with delap etc.You mean in term graduating year?, don't think so. There's people that believe that McAtee is closer to Foden in term of talent, heck some people saying that they are equal.
If he really that good like foden, why he didn't get more playing opportunities at least as same like Foden was when he started joining the first team?
They aren’t equal, different roles though, Foden is easier to integrate positionally and is prob the best of his generation. Mcatee is a midfielder than can control and attack a game, not an easy free fixture to find at this level and team in the 8’s. PAlmer and Foden can both play wide as well, which an easier role to play/fit in the system. Not sure mcatee has ever played their much.
decent role in an 8 or 10 to run at a back line and see the ball a lot and he’ll develop fast as fuck, very smart player. Just gotta pick the right club and manager for the loan.
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Swansea would be my choice for the loan. They always try to play positive football. Their current manager is a huge Pep fanboy. I think he would do decent there.Yeah I think his late birthday in the same year put him in the year behind.. palmer graduated in bazunu’s class In 2019. Mcatee was 2020, with delap etc.
They aren’t equal, different roles though, Foden is easier to integrate positionally and is prob the best of his generation. Mcatee is a midfielder than can control and attack a game, not an easy free fixture to find at this level and team in the 8’s. PAlmer and Foden can both play wide as well, which an easier role to play/fit in the system. Not sure mcatee has ever played their much.
decent role in an 8 or 10 to run at a back line and see the ball a lot and he’ll develop fast as fuck, very smart player. Just gotta pick the right club and manager for the loan.
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Gaz (FMwkdsoul)
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Our old academy director as sporting director as well. I think we’ll see that move next week or so.Swansea would be my choice for the loan. They always try to play positive football. Their current manager is a huge Pep fanboy. I think he would do decent there.
It seems Pep likes to give some of these guys minutes as a false 9 as it's relatively trouble free, cant cause problems in build up or defense and can express yourself.
But McAtee, unlike Foden or Palmer, doesn't have that yard of acceleration they have, he is very much of the 8/10 (attacking midfielder) mold while Foden and Palmer are like a 7/9/10 (forward).
But McAtee, unlike Foden or Palmer, doesn't have that yard of acceleration they have, he is very much of the 8/10 (attacking midfielder) mold while Foden and Palmer are like a 7/9/10 (forward).
I'm With Stupid
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I love McAtee but I haven't been impressed by his coach on Twitter, especially today.
I get he's a City fan so he posts like how we would but when you're coaching one of the players at the club and tweeting stuff (like below) it is a bit inappropriate.
(Again, I get he's a blue so I'm not going to slag him off. Especially since I think he's McAtee's shooting coach and McAtee was in great scoring form earlier in the year so the coach is doing something right.)
Is it normal for players to have a seperate coach that's not employed by the club?
For me, I was really impressed with McAtee earlier in the season when he came on for five minutes. But today, for me, he never looked available to receive a pass. I assume he was told to stay forward a bit, but his movement was hardly that of someone used to playing in that position. Don't know why they didn't give him an opportunity further wide, to be honest.
eversince 76
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Can we just leave the handling of a young very promising player to Pep and his staff? And try not to over analyse his performance with the lad coming on for 10 minutes or so?
I see what your saying, but I'll mention 2 problems I have with it:Can we just leave the handling of a young very promising player to Pep and his staff? And try not to over analyse his performance with the lad coming on for 10 minutes or so?
1) Nobody on this forum is contacting McAtee or his entourage and trying to handle him, this is just a forum.
2) Of course people will analyze the performance of a youngster they were eager to see as they wanted him to perhaps impress more than he did (he also had closer to 30 mins). There are circumstances pointed out by people like covid and not having an EDS game in a while, but this is all just part of the forum discussion that develops.
Don't worry about it, everybody is well intentioned and wants only the best for him.
Yes, it is normal for players to have their personal/private coaches.Is it normal for players to have a seperate coach that's not employed by the club?
For me, I was really impressed with McAtee earlier in the season when he came on for five minutes. But today, for me, he never looked available to receive a pass. I assume he was told to stay forward a bit, but his movement was hardly that of someone used to playing in that position. Don't know why they didn't give him an opportunity further wide, to be honest.
I can’t see him staying to be honest. From
What I’ve seen he’s desperate for minutes and his personal trainer chirping up on Twitter gives a clue into his thoughts. His problem is he is at least a year behind Palmer and from what I’ve seen he’s very raw and a good 2 years away from getting proper minutes in and I don’t think he will stick around that long.
What I’ve seen he’s desperate for minutes and his personal trainer chirping up on Twitter gives a clue into his thoughts. His problem is he is at least a year behind Palmer and from what I’ve seen he’s very raw and a good 2 years away from getting proper minutes in and I don’t think he will stick around that long.
I can’t see him staying to be honest. From
What I’ve seen he’s desperate for minutes and his personal trainer chirping up on Twitter gives a clue into his thoughts. His problem is he is at least a year behind Palmer and from what I’ve seen he’s very raw and a good 2 years away from getting proper minutes in and I don’t think he will stick around that long.
He has another year on his contract I believe if we sell him we should put in a buy back and a sell on clause