Russian invasion of Ukraine

You're talking newsworthy, as in the latest thing, on our doorstep etc, etc, in a conversation with yourself or a bit of whataboutery,

What was originally being talked about was the nature of the coverage.
I made a point on that too.

The Middle East has been a shit show of violence and often plagued by religious fanaticism and dictatorships.

I make no apology for looking at the Ukraine as more civilised, as a relatively liberal democratic society in comparison.

At no point in any of the coverage has any reporter devalued human life - if you can point to that then I’ll take this point back if it’s proven?
 
His personal fortune is no more immune to sanctions then the rest of the oligrarchs and the Russian Central Bank, he just has more.

They’re losing money, he’s losing money.
A lot of Putin’s money will be untouched. Some of it may well be in gold bullion, precious stones etc and the value might go up.
 
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When Happy Mondays were recording Bummed in Yorkshire, 1988, they took time out and met a platoon of soldiers based nearby. The Mondays gave them Es and they were never the same again. Flowers in their rifles and all that. Half of them opened communes in the nearby mountains where only love was allowed.
True story...apart from the last bit.
 
Your comment, it's shit for Ukraine but better than a nuclear war is fine except, you do not offer an alternative other than giving him what he wants. Today he wants Ukraine, what if tomorrow its another country, Poland even. When would you decide enough is enough ?
It's disgusting we're even being put in this position. Putin is a fucking degenerate. I'm frustrated and bewildered but resigned to the fact we are going to let him let him roll on Ukraine. They won't see it as our problem until he invades a NATO country and we are banking on the likelihood he won't try it. Why because there are enough lands around Russia he can plunder that aren't in the NATO alliance. Enough to make them relevant again.
Perhaps we are also hoping they'll be enough civil unrest in these regions to keep Russia busy for years
 
You'd need them permanently dosed.
Incidentally, but vaguely relevant, there was an explosion of strong-as-fuck pills called “snowballs” back in 1992 which blew your head off but monged you out. Some loved them but people started disliking them too because they weren’t very “loved up”. It’s since come out that these snowballs were mass produced and exported by the government of one of the ex soviet countries to prop up their economy. True story that. They were everywhere for about a year and then they vanished.
 
There's a bit of whataboutery in that question. It's pure speculation that he might ever want to go for e.g. Poland. And to anyone chiming in about his alleged "vision" for a rekindled grand USSR, assuming that is even true, then that may be an aspiration but it does not mean he is hell bent on it, nor that his views and actions might not be moderated by events.

This is complete bollocks.

This is his 3rd invasion in 16 years, Lukashenko just gave away they plan to take Transnistria off Moldova and he has literally stood up and said he's going to establish pre-1917 Russia again so it's not whataboutery or speculation he's going to do it again.

IMO it is not that we will have prevented his successful taking of Ukraine. It is that he will think "Fuck, I am not doing THAT again".

Your grand theory is that if we give him what he wants for a 3rd time in a row, he'll learn not to do it a 4th time.


Brilliant.
 
Sky & BBC reporting now how Non Ukrainians are being treated at the Border. Romanian Spokesman defending it against Sarah Jayne on Sky. United Nations now condemned the treatment

"There has been a different treatment (...). There should be absolutely no discrimination between Ukrainians and non-Ukrainians, Europeans and non-Europeans. Everyone is fleeing from the same risks.”
No doubt there has been some unacceptable discrimination but most of the report I’ve seen has been about international students not understanding that children and their mothers go first.
 
When Happy Mondays were recording Bummed in Yorkshire, 1988, they took time out and met a platoon of soldiers based nearby. The Mondays gave them Es and they were never the same again. Flowers in their rifles and all that. Half of them opened communes in the nearby mountains where only love was allowed.
True story...apart from the last bit.
This is actually a genuinely true story but the love and peace ended about 4am and they went back to calling each other a **** and shitting in pint glasses and that. Driffield was the location.
 
This is complete bollocks.

This is his 3rd invasion in 16 years, Lukashenko just gave away they plan to take Transnistria off Moldova and he has literally stood up and said he's going to establish pre-1917 Russia again so it's not whataboutery or speculation he's going to do it again.
No, it isn't complete bollocks at all. As any investor will tell you past results are not a reliable indicator of future performance. He's never experienced a fuck up like this before. He's 69 years old FFS. And you think he's so stupid as to completely ignore events? You'd risk nuclear war over a future threat which may not even exist. That's complete bollocks.
 
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Plus we've got more Russian oligarchs in London than any other European city and possibly as many as all other EU countries put together due to the reputation of London being a no questions asked money laundering centre for people with spare billions.
Lets not forget that most of those Oligarch's that live here fled Russia to get away from Putin's security services because they criticised Putin.
 
No, it isn't complete bollocks at all. As any investor will tell you past results are not a reliable indicator of future performance. He's never experienced a fuck up like this before. He'd 69 years old FFS. And you think he's so stupid as to completely ignore events? You'd risk nuclear war over a future threat which may not even exist. That's complete bollocks.
He's 69 years old so who's being primed to take over from him ? He seems quite fit for his age tbh but I'm sure he'll want someone of similar opinions and vision
 
Sky & BBC reporting now how Non Ukrainians are being treated at the Border. Romanian Spokesman defending it against Sarah Jayne on Sky. United Nations now condemned the treatment

"There has been a different treatment (...). There should be absolutely no discrimination between Ukrainians and non-Ukrainians, Europeans and non-Europeans. Everyone is fleeing from the same risks.”
Poland are pointing out that Belarus (and Putin) flew thousands of people in from Africa, Syria etc and dumped them on the Polish border. This was covered by the news channels before the shit hit the fan.
They now have to decide who is a genuine refugee and who isn't. They are also saying Putin flew them in for just this reason. I am not defending their action just stating what they are saying.
 

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