Chelsea Thread - 2021/22

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Henri Regnault said:
Normally don't like responding to rage posts, I'll lead off by saying I agree with you personally that Mansour strikes me as a lot less sketchy than RA.

However, the parallels are that both clubs are owned by successful businessmen whose wealth originated from their home country - one is an oligarch and one is a royal. Both of these owners are still perceived as significantly involved in the governance of these countries, Mansour is in the royal family of a functioning monarchy, for example. From there, it's pretty straightforward that if the foreign affairs of one's home country can lead to sanctions that ruin a football club's ability to operate, the same could happen to the other owner/football club.

As has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, this seems unlikely to be an issue with the UAE, and that's something we should be thankful for.
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Just to clarify then, the only comparable is they are both businessmen, both successful, and both have limits to, or in our case own a football club. Everything else they are completely different individuals, have principles and morals and stand for very different things.
 
lonestay said:
If this was a factory he owned, it would not be allowed to operate in any capacity , Chelsea FC are no different to that factor
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But it's not a factory, it's a community asset with fan shareholdings as well. I personally hope that Chelsea continue as they are but with a new owner and the proceeds of the sale (hopefully £3b) frozen until after this war is over ie Russia retreats back indefinitely. Abramovich gets his costs back and the profits to to Ukraine.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
A transaction like that with the world watching would happen without any nonsense. Just my opinion is all. Football and it’s (their) fans shouldn’t be brought into it.
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Children in nurserys shouldn't be brought into war . it's a bit fucked up for Chelsea at the moment they will get sold asap and Chelsea will carry on as normal
 
lonestay said:
Unfortunately someone is going to end up owning Chelski at a knockdown price soon , and I bet they are American . I don't understand how they can actually be allowed to continue playing football, they are a major asset of RA and should have to face the full consiquences of his actions .
If this was a factory he owned, it would not be allowed to operate in any capacity , Chelsea FC are no different to that factory .
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It’ll end up going to the Tory donor Nick Candy on the cheap
 
CityTX said:
I find this topic very interesting to say the least. Being from the Middle East (born and raised - moved to US for college), It's always intriguing when it comes to the West moral compass - very, very selective.
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Moral compasses are supposed to be selective. That’s the whole point of morality - to select what’s right and what’s wrong.

For example, bombing a maternity hospital is wrong, standing up to bullies and their lickspittles is right.
 
lonestay said:
Unfortunately someone is going to end up owning Chelski at a knockdown price soon , and I bet they are American . I don't understand how they can actually be allowed to continue playing football, they are a major asset of RA and should have to face the full consiquences of his actions .
If this was a factory he owned, it would not be allowed to operate in any capacity , Chelsea FC are no different to that factory .
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Cultural something or other. Whatever we think, football clubs should be slightly more ‘protected’
 
rickmcfc said:
What fucking parallels? One is owned by a Russian who is a close associate of a war hungry wankstain, the other is owned by a successfully businessman and member of the Abu Dhabi Royal family. Hardly comparable
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the other is owned by a successfully businessman and member of the Abu Dhabi Royal family. Hardly comparable
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Along with Silverlake (USA) & CMC (China). As you say, no parallels at all.
 
Henri Regnault said:
Normally don't like responding to rage posts, I'll lead off by saying I agree with you personally that Mansour strikes me as a lot less sketchy than RA.

However, the parallels are that both clubs are owned by successful businessmen whose wealth originated from their home country - one is an oligarch and one is a royal. Both of these owners are still perceived as significantly involved in the governance of these countries, Mansour is in the royal family of a functioning monarchy, for example. From there, it's pretty straightforward that if the foreign affairs of one's home country can lead to sanctions that ruin a football club's ability to operate, the same could happen to the other owner/football club.

As has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, this seems unlikely to be an issue with the UAE, and that's something we should be thankful for.
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Have you not heard about Silver Lake. & CMC?
 
rickmcfc said:
Just to clarify then, the only comparable is they are both businessmen, both successful, and both have limits to, or in our case own a football club. Everything else they are completely different individuals, have principles and morals and stand for very different things.
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Both are perceived (rightfully or wrongfully) as politically connected to their government's decision-making organs. They also both have effective control over their football clubs (majority ownership). That's a parallel, right? I think it is. UAE's actions could impact MCFC if Russia's actions can impact Chelsea. That's all I'm saying. Brave new world, etc etc.

Just food for thought! Not trying to suggest Mansour invades neighboring countries.
 
Henri Regnault said:
Normally don't like responding to rage posts, I'll lead off by saying I agree with you personally that Mansour strikes me as a lot less sketchy than RA.

However, the parallels are that both clubs are owned by successful businessmen whose wealth originated from their home country - one is an oligarch and one is a royal. Both of these owners are still perceived as significantly involved in the governance of these countries, Mansour is in the royal family of a functioning monarchy, for example. From there, it's pretty straightforward that if the foreign affairs of one's home country can lead to sanctions that ruin a football club's ability to operate, the same could happen to the other owner/football club.

As has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, this seems unlikely to be an issue with the UAE, and that's something we should be thankful for.
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Absolute bunch of horseshit
 
Any reason we don’t keep seeing the happenings at Chelsea being linked to Sheffield United?? Just City.
 
Henri Regnault said:
Normally don't like responding to rage posts, I'll lead off by saying I agree with you personally that Mansour strikes me as a lot less sketchy than RA.

However, the parallels are that both clubs are owned by successful businessmen whose wealth originated from their home country - one is an oligarch and one is a royal. Both of these owners are still perceived as significantly involved in the governance of these countries, Mansour is in the royal family of a functioning monarchy, for example. From there, it's pretty straightforward that if the foreign affairs of one's home country can lead to sanctions that ruin a football club's ability to operate, the same could happen to the other owner/football club.

As has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, this seems unlikely to be an issue with the UAE, and that's something we should be thankful for.
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Mmmmmmm I don’t like the tone you are using towards City or the Sheikh. Maybe you could stop spreading shit with no factual evidence to back up your misplaced information.

Mansour has no resemblance to Red Roman at all apart from coming from the East and both having made their wealth in oil and that is were the similarities stop. Chelsea/Russia and the death of innocent Ukrainians is what should be discussed not another veiled attempt to attack MCFC.

If and when Mansour kills innocent people then we can all discuss MCFC’s demise but in the meantime fuck off with your shit.
 
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levets said:
Have you not heard about Silver Lake. & CMC?
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Good point! It might matter, but every other conversation about sanctions from the UK government discussed "effective control" aka majority ownership.

Put another way, if Chelsea was only 78% RA, wouldn't the Treasury just seize the shares? And therefore dictate how the club was run? And therefore require a special license? I think it would. I'd be surprised if the government let RA off on a technicality like that. It's a good point though, I'm not sure how the CMC and Silver Lake would have their rights preserved/protected in CFG in that case.
 
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