Marc Cucurella

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Part of the £198m that psg paid, cover his loyalty bonuses mate. If you take the bonus payments out, the transfer fee is lower. Agents have done this for years.

That's you saying that, not what the court said.

A signing on fee that Zin mentions, I can see, if that is spread over the contract it makes sense the player gets the remainder of that when he leaves. But as I understand it a transfer request only forsakes the loyalty bonus. And that, with other performance bonuses, stop anyway when his contract ends with his move elsewhere.
 
That's you saying that, not what the court said.

A signing on fee that Zin mentions, I can see, if that is spread over the contract it makes sense the player gets the remainder of that when he leaves. But as I understand it a transfer request only forsakes the loyalty bonus. And that, with other performance bonuses, stop anyway when his contract ends with his move elsewhere.
Its fact mate. Been around football for 30yrs. I know it sounds mental, and it is, but that’s the way it works. We were paying 3 managers at the same time in the late 80s early 90s.
 
Its fact mate. Been around football for 30yrs. I know it sounds mental, and it is, but that’s the way it works. We were paying 3 managers at the same time in the late 80s early 90s.

It is not though. The legal citation says that loyalty bonuses are due 'as long as the player is still employed by the club at the date the installment is due'. If he is then employed by us, they don't owe him any further bonuses, as he is no longer under contract, he has beem bought out of it. That's what the court based their decision on. Just saying 'it has been the case for years' doesn't add anything, it is still wrong.
 
It's a long way from Getafe, the possible transfer looks no less incongruous than it did from the beginning, but all of Brighton's transfers recently seem a bit strange.
 
It is not though. The legal citation says that loyalty bonuses are due 'as long as the player is still employed by the club at the date the installment is due'. If he is then employed by us, they don't owe him any further bonuses, as he is no longer under contract, he has beem bought out of it. That's what the court based their decision on. Just saying 'it has been the case for years' doesn't add anything, it is still wrong.
We’ll have to agree to disagree mate. Football is a law that can’t be fathomed.
 
It is not though. The legal citation says that loyalty bonuses are due 'as long as the player is still employed by the club at the date the installment is due'. If he is then employed by us, they don't owe him any further bonuses, as he is no longer under contract, he has beem bought out of it. That's what the court based their decision on. Just saying 'it has been the case for years' doesn't add anything, it is still wrong.
That is also true, pal, but the cherry for the player, in all instances is he hasn’t requested the move, hence he can refuse the move unless the bonuses are offered/honoured!
 
We’ll have to agree to disagree mate. Football is a law can’t be fathomed.

You go ahead, but that law has documented wording and it is pretty clear. And the Neymar case brought it to the surface.

So you think that next year, Cucurella will be collecting a loyalty bonus from Barcelona, Getafe, Brighton and Us all at the same time, while playing for us?

It is pretty clear in the wording I pasted above that it only applies while the player is under contract of that club. Disagree all you like, but that is the only thing I have seen publicly available.
 
You go ahead, but that law has documented wording and it is pretty clear. And the Neymar case brought it to the surface.

So you think that next year, Cucurella will be collecting a loyalty bonus from Barcelona, Getafe, Brighton and Us all at the same time, while playing for us?

It is pretty clear in the wording I pasted above that it only applies while the player is under contract of that club. Disagree all you like, but that is the only thing I have seen publicly available.
Ffs mate, it’s been spelled out to you clear and correct. That’s the way it’s is, Cucca has sacrificed all loyalty bonuses to try and force a move to us.
 
Ffs mate, it’s been spelled out to you clear and correct. That’s the way it’s is, Cucca has sacrificed all loyalty bonuses to try and force a move to us.

Which he wouldn't get anyway if he got his move, because he would no longer be entitled to them not being an employee of that club. You've said absolutely nothing yo back it up, other than, 'it just is'.
 
Which he wouldn't get anyway if he got his move, because he would no longer be entitled to them not being an employee of that club. You've said absolutely nothing yo back it up, other than, 'it just is
Nothing, I’ve literally spelt it out to you mate. Let’s not carry this on now pal.
 
Nothing, I’ve literally spelt it out to you mate. Let’s not carry this on now pal.

You've spelt out your take.

But you are right, neither of us is saying anything new, happy to stop bud.

He has made a significant move to push it on, we can do our bit, then on to Brighton to do theirs.
 
The only issue now is City meeting Bloom’s valuation. Do that and it happens, try ****ing around and it doesn’t. Simple (or it would be, if he has told anyone what his valuation is). I can’t see this being done for less than £50m.

If it happens (think we’ll all know within a day or two) I wish him well, he’s a great player and seems like a decent bloke. Would have liked to see him give us another season but that’s life.
 
Barcelona are trying to dodge at least £20m in payments to de jong. I would have more respect if de jong realised he’s not wanted and just moved on. It’s not like they’re short of a few quid.
I wouldn't in his case. Loyalty bonus for someone that would prefer to play elsewhere is for me a bit much. So of they forego that, fair play.

But De Jong is being asked to forego wages, Barcelona are taking the piss not wanting to pay them.
 
I wouldn't in his case. Loyalty bonus for someone that would prefer to play elsewhere is for me a bit much. So of they forego that, fair play.

But De Jong is being asked to forego wages, Barcelona are taking the piss not wanting to pay them.
I agree, Barcelona should pay what is due in preferred wages. But he is also asking for loyalty bonuses as well. De jong is digging his heals in for an extra. If he wants to further his career then he should be more football and not money. Take a leaf out of Cuccas book and go for the football and not the money. Fucking agents.
 
Cuckoo has done what he has to. Fair play to him.

Now it’s up to City.

He has forced everyone’s hands, his, Bloom’s and City’s.

Good lad.
 
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