United (H) - Sun 2nd Oct, 14:00 | Pre-Match Thread

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blue b4 the moon said:
If we played them 20 times, we'd have something like a 18-1-1 record, no reason for any fanny wipes to be worried, anything less than 3 points would be a big shock, fluke or Official influenced.
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IMO No we wouldn’t and if you think that then you’d do yourself a favour by looking at our results against them over the last decade, where we’ve dominated English football but not dominated them in head to heads in the same manner.
They can be very effective on the counter against high pressing sides like us. More so than the likes of Newcastle Villa or whoever, and we needed good luck and moments of pure brilliance to take points from those games in recent weeks.
They’ve also smacked liverpool and arsenal’s arses already this season and, ok so the dippers are below par and the Arsenal had an off day, but the more arrogant amongst both the dipper and arse supporters would have been singing your tune in the run up to those fixtures, and look how they turned out.

Yes I want us to muller them, I know that we’re the better team by a country mile, but I also respect that we don’t beat them in 9 out of 10 games . . not even when we’re by far the better side and playing on our own turf. History proves the point.

I’d love us to give them a thrashing but I still respect that form, cheating dirty fouls, luck and incompetent / bent referees play a part in proceedings that are beyond our control so I’ll have an eye on the bad outcome that certainly ‘could‘ happen and celebrate any win even by the tightest of margins.

If you think my opinion makes me a fanny wiper then that’s fine by me.
 
Big Jonjo said:
I'm torn in whether we play KDB in matches like these, were it is very likely they will set up to hit us on the counter with pace. I don't feel KDB is playing at the top of his game atm, especially when playing a slide rule ball between defenders and any stray pass can lead to a quick counter attack. Gundo and Bernardo retain the ball much better, however KDB is a big game player and usually scores or assists. I personally think most of KDB's best work this season has been down the right wing, delivering crosses like we saw yesterday at Wolves. A bit of a dilemma for me to play him, but he's also hard to drop!
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KDB scored 2 against em only last season and Utd set up on the counter in that game.
 
waspish said:
Mind boggling that some fans still think like this regarding Kdb you never stop your world class players if 100% fit The End
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It's a valid opinion even though I don't completely agree, I think he should start and hopefully raise his game because he has been average this season by his high standards even though he started the 1st half of last season slowly too. As a number 8 he starts every single game without fail, but hes now playing as a number 10/2nd striker and I do feel it's not his best role.
 
Bluewars said:
It's a valid opinion even though I don't completely agree, I think he should start and hopefully raise his game because he has been average this season by his high standards even though he started the 1st half of last season slowly too. As a number 8 he starts every single game without fail, but hes now playing as a number 10/2nd striker and I do feel it's not his best role.
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When he got 20 PL assist he was playing in a similar role to what he's doing now and he's already on 6 assist top of the assist in the league by 3 yes his overall game can definitely improve but it will in the season i don't think it's to do with his role though
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
IMO No we wouldn’t and if you think that then you’d do yourself a favour by looking at our results against them over the last decade, where we’ve dominated English football but not dominated them in head to heads in the same manner.
They can be very effective on the counter against high pressing sides like us. More so than the likes of Newcastle Villa or whoever, and we needed good luck and moments of pure brilliance to take points from those games in recent weeks.
They’ve also smacked liverpool and arsenal’s arses already this season and, ok so the dippers are below par and the Arsenal had an off day, but the more arrogant amongst both the dipper and arse supporters would have been singing your tune in the run up to those fixtures, and look how they turned out.

Yes I want us to muller them, I know that we’re the better team by a country mile, but I also respect that we don’t beat them in 9 out of 10 games . . not even when we’re by far the better side and playing on our own turf. History proves the point.

I’d love us to give them a thrashing but I still respect that form, cheating dirty fouls, luck and incompetent / bent referees play a part in proceedings that are beyond our control so I’ll have an eye on the bad outcome that certainly ‘could‘ happen and celebrate any win even by the tightest of margins.

If you think my opinion makes me a fanny wiper then that’s fine by me.
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Naive of him/her to think form and recent matches matter in the Manchester Derby .
 
Elliot houghton said:
When he got 20 PL assist he was playing in a similar role to what he's doing now and he's already on 6 assist top of the assist in the league by 3 yes his overall game can definitely improve but it will in the season i don't think it's to do with his role though
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He Definetly wasn't playing a similar role now as in the majority 19/20 season.

He was a typical #8 playing in a 3 man midfield with Fernandinho/Rodri as the #6 and David Silva the other #8.

Yes at times we did play with a double-pivot of Gundo and Rodri, but then we had Jesus playing Up front, with Haaland now as striker id prefer him playing deeper.
 
Three of the worst injuries we suffered were at the hands of the rags.. Pardoe, the King and Erling's dad..best, buchan and keane..cantona with his kung fu kick.. scum of a club.. their banner, red nose, never in my lifetime..their highest attendance, Maine Road..Erling will chew up and spit the midget Martinez out...not worried about the score, any win will do.
 
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Beware of this United team. Their manager has them hyped up and playing better football. They will want to prove themselves against us and they have a fairly decent record against us. This will be a ding dong derby for sure. I don’t want them gaining any momentum against us whatsoever with their resurgent form. I think they have the right man in charge now and their barren years are nearly over but not at our expense. Give em a bloody nose City and put them in their place. Love glazers hate United
 
Stevieatlasblue said:
Beware of this United team. Their manager has them hyped up and playing better football. They will want to prove themselves against us and they have a fairly decent record against us. This will be a ding dong derby for sure. I don’t want them gaining any momentum against us whatsoever with their resurgent form. I think they have the right man in charge now and their barren years are nearly over but not at our expense. Give em a bloody nose City and put them in their place. Love glazers hate United
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Yep it’s no cert this one, if they can keep us out they will definitely have a fair few very dangerous counters
Our midfield is light years ahead of theirs though so hopefully we turn our possession into goals

Will be shitting it as always
 
It’s ole tactics parked bus hoof it! but they now have a manager who knows a bit about tactics even though he through his philosophy down the toilet as soon as he lost two games!
 
I reckon this will be United's team:

De Gea
Dalot
Varane
Martinez
Malacia
Casemiro
Fernandes
Eriksen
Antony
Sancho
Rashford

Ronaldo could start, I guess that depends on how much they intend to press us.
 
This is probably our hardest game to date this season.

They have improved over the past few weeks and look more organised, better defensively and are good on the counter attack. Varane and Martinez are a much better pair than Maguire and whoever else partnered him over the past few seasons....Malacia is better than shaw as well,
We have played well but we are definitely more vulnerable defensively than we have been under Pep for a long time..there is way to much space in the midfield when we lose the ball...we are too stretched and utd have hte pace to exploit that. We have to be better when moving the ball between the lines and as important as Walker is defensively he is a weakness at present when passing.....KDB as well has been hit and miss...

We need energy all over the park for this one.
 
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