The British Monarchy

[Shirley]

Curiosity killed the cat

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The media would never do that surely ?

Who knows mate. I do think with issues like this, BLM, gender stuff and loads of other protest movements, it starts with genuine people confronting a genuine issue and as the days/weeks go on more and more fringe actors hijack the cause for their own ends. Usually the media/social media just boil everything down into a left v right / gammon v woke pissing contest that stifles actual debate and is basically just a bit boring

 

[Ja Salford Blue]

This has really made me think about something.

Whenever I get in an taxi with my mates when we’re pissed, if the driver is Asian I always make a point of asking the driver where he/his family are originally from. I do this to put him at ease because he has 3/4 pissed up dick heads in his cab. Every single time I end up having a top chat about his country of origin and cricket, and debate the best batsman, bowler and all rounder that he has ever seen. I don’t have a racist bone in my body. But I have done the same thing this lady has done

 

[dronefromsector7G]

This has really made me think about something.

Whenever I get in an taxi with my mates when we’re pissed, if the driver is Asian I always make a point of asking the driver where he/his family are originally from. I do this to put him at ease because he has 3/4 pissed up dick heads in his cab. Every single time I end up having a top chat about his country of origin and cricket, and debate the best batsman, bowler and all rounder that he has ever seen. I don’t have a racist bone in my body. But I have done the same thing this lady has done

Have you ever received the answer ‘I'm British mate’ and then said ‘no really where are you from, what’s your nationality’ etc?

 

[nellyonthewing]

An 83 year old lady in waiting meets a lady waiting to be offended. What a pathetic woke storm in a tea cup.

 

[WestGorton]

Just get rid of a royal family. Problems solved.

 

[Ja Salford Blue]

Have you ever received the answer ‘I'm British mate’ and then said ‘no really where are you from, what’s your nationality’ etc?

No I suppose your right when you put it that way! Plus it’s one working class man talking to another working class man when I ask. I’ve never had one driver ever be uncomfortable about it. My dad is mixed raced and his grandparents were immigrants. Like I said I do it make the driver feel at ease. But looking at it now it could be seen as insulting. Which just seems mad!

But I very much get your point

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Just get rid of a royal family. Problems solved.

Not sure getting rid of the royal family would instantly rid the country of octogenarians with archaic attitudes?

 

[WestGorton]

Not sure getting rid of the royal family would instantly rid the country of octogenarians with archaic attitudes?

No, but it would be a start.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

No, but it would be a start.

Plenty of good arguments/ reasons to abolish the monarchy and have a republic. An old lady being a twat for a couple of minutes is probably not one of them. Personally I don't begrudge the 57p or whatever it is a year the monarchy costs me, I suspect that there are other bits of the tax take that are bigger and more poorly spent

 

[Eccles Blue]

If you are over 80 it seems so

If you are over 80 what seems so? I am over 80 and I’d like to know what it is please?

 

[Ja Salford Blue]

Plenty of good arguments/ reasons to abolish the monarchy and have a republic. An old lady being a twat for a couple of minutes is probably not one of them. Personally I don't begrudge the 57p or whatever it is a year the monarchy costs me, I suspect that there are other bits of the tax take that are bigger and more poorly spent

Thats a top point tbf mate! People should spend an afternoon on Salford Precient, then you will see where our tax is wasted!

 

[Eccles Blue]

Why didn’t the lady who was being asked the questions say ‘I feel that you are being racist here’ giving the other lady the chance to say, either: ‘I’m sorry that was not my intention’ or ‘I am not’ thereby giving First Lady the option of explaining how she is being racist? Surely that would have been better than going to Twitter/the papers or however it came in to the public domain.

May I just add that if it wasn’t the lady who was on the receiving end of the remarks who went to the press/social media then I apologise. I have not looked on those platforms and am just going really on the outrage shown on certain forums.

 

[Ja Salford Blue]

90% of people on here have a gran/grandad or auntie/uncle who have said things that we wouldn't in public these days! it's wrong what she said, but she is 83 years old!

I see Ghana fans at the World Cup dancing with white face and body paint on (which is brilliant and they are loving it) but they are not racist just as this old woman isnt!

For Contex, if the woman was of oriental appearance, and she had been asked where she originated from, would it have caused this much of an outcry?

 

[bluethrunthru]

If you are over 80 what seems so? I am over 80 and I’d like to know what it is please?

Well the best people in the media can come up with is Lady hufton tufton whatever she is called is 83 so one assumes 80 is the age that working at the Palace you get your "Racist license" after which you can say what you want to anyone

 

[bluethrunthru]

Plenty of good arguments/ reasons to abolish the monarchy and have a republic. An old lady being a twat for a couple of minutes is probably not one of them. Personally I don't begrudge the 57p or whatever it is a year the monarchy costs me, I suspect that there are other bits of the tax take that are bigger and more poorly spent

fucking subsidised bars and restaurants in the HoC is where I would start before the Royals mate..... 30p Lee only thinks you can feed someone on that coz he can buy lobster thermidor - roast beef dinner - tarte tatin with clotted cream for 30p "at work" and assumes we all can

 

[bluethrunthru]

I see Ghana fans at the World Cup dancing with white face and body paint on (which is brilliant and they are loving it) but they are not racist just as this old woman isnt!

Yeah - as do aboriginal people in Australia for example - its not racists its cultural like dressing up to go Morris dancing where nowadays the black face character is frowned upon - speaking like a racists isn't ( I hope ) a tradition within the Royal Household and all its hangers on

 

[Eccles Blue]

Well the best people in the media can come up with is Lady hufton tufton whatever she is called is 83 so one assumes 80 is the age that working at the Palace you get your "Racist license" after which you can say what you want to anyone

Ah, thank you. Are we able to opt out of getting one as I prefer to be polite and caring to people please? Not that I work at the Palace or would even want to thank you. :-)

 

[bluethrunthru]

Ah, thank you. Are we able to opt out of getting one as I prefer to be polite and caring to people please? Not that I work at the Palace or would even want to thank you. :-)

I doubt its compulsory but I do know a lot of people - my Dad included - who have one and have an exemplary record and zero points on........

 

[Ja Salford Blue]

Yeah - as do aboriginal people in Australia for example - its not racists its cultural like dressing up to go Morris dancing where nowadays the black face character is frowned upon - speaking like a racists isn't ( I hope ) a tradition within the Royal Household and all its hangers on

For me this old lady has not been offensive. Her comment was wrong, but in no way meant to be offensive.

If an 83 year old war hero in a care home had said the same thing to Diane Abbott, would there be the same outrage?

no there wouldn't be!