VAR thread 2022/23

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I was at a wedding yesterday in the middle of the countryside and there wasn't any signal, so didn't see anything football related until we just got home this morning. Just seen they cheated to keep the dippers in the FA cup. It's weird how they have problems with VAR working there properly when it benefits them. The whole thing stinks.
 
Whether or not said:
The huge conflict of interest with VAR is that the broadcasters supply the pictures and dictate the angles and shots shown. The same broadcasters who are beholden to the sponsors and who all make more money out of showing Utd and Liverpool than any other clubs. It would be commercial self harm for either of those clubs to be permitted to lose in the third round, so the true VAR picture is simply withheld and on we go with Liverpool winning the replay and everybody happy. It is the same reason why it was a nailed on certainty that United were getting Charlton in the League Cup draw.
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So, are you saying that the game is being manipulated for commercial benefit?
 
So now we all know that there is a blind spot at Anfield, why are teams playing matches there ? Teams should boycott it . If the other teams ,excluding the scum, got together and did this the blindspot would be sorted out within days. The Prem would have to do something to protect their "product" they wouldn't like it but they would be forced to do something.
 
halfcenturyup said:
So let's have a look at the three seasons pre- and post-VAR.

Pre: 8, 3 and 7 penalties
Post: 5, 6 and 8 penalties

Actually one more post-VAR than pre-.

You are using this year to date, which as far as I can tell is 0 penalties, to try to justify a point when it is just an outlier due to other factors, probably due to the fact they are crap this year.

You don't need to do it. I think most reasonable people would agree that the availability of VAR has led to a reduction in play-acting and trying to con the ref, as we saw very clearly, I think, at the world cup.

But this whole discussion started because the feeling was that, if someone trod on Salah's foot when he was running in the box at Anfield, he would get a penalty. Let's see if that happens and, if it does, what the result is.
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Disagree.
Var has increased play-acting, increased players haranguing the ref and increased players going down at the slightest touch.
 
So VAR found him offside. The DT this morning sez it was all based on the lino flagging 'cos VAR couldn't make a decision one way or the other. It's yet another single instance where smoke 'n mirrors are used to decide the outcome of a game.

Clear as fuckin' day Wolves have been screwed.
 
As long as clubs don't kick up a fuss about being cheated at Anfield then it will just continue and be accepted as the norm .
 
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As long as clubs don't kick up a fuss about being cheated at Anfield then it will just continue and be accepted as the norm .
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If clubs kicked off about being cheated the FA would be at their front door with a charge of bringing the game into disrepute. Yesterday stinks, and the FA know that sooner or later a stink disappears, never to re-appear, and then another stink comes along.

I would like to hear from four or five refs who haven't seen any video footage and get them to suggest what happens next. There will not be unanimity, one way or the other. And were the FA/PiGMOL to explain why the goal was chalked off we could probably find a dozen examples where an identical scenario resulted in a goal!

The game is being manipulated and results are being massaged.
 
The only way Salah goal can stand is

1, ref and linesman dont know the correct interpretation of rule. ( changed after City against villa )

2, bent.

Now do we believe that the ref, linesman and var dont know the rules ? If that is the case they need sacking off. Or the only other case is that game was bent.

Also why is Anfield allowed to be a premier league ground when it cant accommodate VAR.

Those wolves fans at Anfield wont have had a clue what VAR was looking at. That cant be right.

The whole thing about LFC and VAR stinks.
 
They haven't had a pen because it was getting to obvious what was going on. As night follows day Salah or Mane would fall over, so they have had to be a bit more subtle in how they use VAR to manipulate dipper results .
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
So, are you saying that the game is being manipulated for commercial benefit?
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Yes absolutely, and VAR has just created a perfect way for the advertisers, sponsors and broadcasters to maximise revenue, audiences and influence. They want title races that go to the wire, the traditional superpowers in the cup finals and so on, because it directly increases revenues. It was largely glossed over at the time when a TV executive said after the Bradford - Swansea league cup final ‘this must never be allowed to happen again, we could not sell this match anywhere’.
Perversely, having been traditional outsiders, we are now more likely than we were to benefit from this sort of stuff, because of the global appeal of people like Pep, KDB, Haaland. Global appeal equates to additional revenues and so on.
Most of the time the manipulation is subtle, but when it is a last minute winning goal against a protected club, they just ’lose’ the key picture and protect the revenue stream. As somebody who has watched and invested in football all my life and had a season ticket for 43 years, it saddens me to say it, but I genuinely believe that the game of football itself is largely clean, but it is totally manipulated by external commercial interests.
 
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Yes absolutely, and VAR has just created a perfect way for the advertisers, sponsors and broadcasters to maximise revenue, audiences and influence. They want title races that go to the wire, the traditional superpowers in the cup finals and so on, because it directly increases revenues. It was largely glossed over at the time when a TV executive said after the Bradford - Swansea league cup final ‘this must never be allowed to happen again, we could not sell this match anywhere’.
Perversely, having been traditional outsiders, we are now more likely than we were to benefit from this sort of stuff, because of the global appeal of people like Pep, KDB, Haaland. Global appeal equates to additional revenues and so on.
Most of the time the manipulation is subtle, but when it is a last minute winning goal against a protected club, they just ’lose’ the key picture and protect the revenue stream. As somebody who has watched and invested in football all my life and had a season ticket for 43 years, it saddens me to say it, but I genuinely believe that the game of football itself is largely clean, but it is totally manipulated by external commercial interests.
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Completely agree and the reason that everybody goes along with it is … money.
 
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