PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Fuck em bring it on what will be will be, been a blue since the 70s, seen us half decent, seen us in the toilet and seen us magnificent
Being a City fan is a roller coaster ride of all roller coaster rides
I will be a blue weather its conference North or European Super League and thats what it's about, take it all away I couldn't give 2 shiny shits, I'll still be a blue, its really that simple
 
I disagree, the clubs approach has let us down badly, half a decade and more of continuously having to listen to accusations of cheating, ruining football, buying the league, not from other fans I get that, it's "banter" and we would do the same, but from supposedly professional people in media and within the game, all of which could and should have been challenged long before now.

We are definitely guilty of one thing, and thats indolence
What do you reckon the club should have done?
 
These are the E numbers City have been charged against
Seems they are saying the books have been "cooked" serious allegations not just for the PL but as these are auditioned accounts, could it be criminal charges for all involved?

E.3. Each Club shall by 1 March in each Season, submit to the Board a copy of its Annual Accounts in respect of its most recent financial year or if the Club considers it appropriate or the Board so requests the Group Accounts of the Group of which it is a member (in either case such accounts to be prepared and audited in accordance with applicable legal and regulatory requirements) together with a copy of the directors’ report for that year and a copy of the auditors’ report on those accounts.
E.4. The accounts referred to in Rule E.3 shall: E.4.1. include separate disclosure within the balance sheet or notes to the accounts, or by way of supplementary information separately reported on by its auditors by way of procedures specified by the Board, of the total sums payable and receivable in respect of Compensation Fees, Contingent Sums and Loan Fees; and E.4.2. include a breakdown within the profit and loss account or the notes to the accounts, or by way of supplementary information separately reported on by its auditors by way of procedures specified by the Board, of revenue in appropriate categories such as gate receipts, sponsorship and advertising, broadcasting rights, commercial income and other income.
E.11. By 31 March in each Season, each Club shall submit to the Board in respect of itself (or if the Club considers it appropriate or the Board so requests in respect of the Group of which it is a member) future financial information comprising projected profit and loss accounts, cash flow, balance sheets and relevant explanatory notes commencing from its accounting reference date or, if it has submitted interim accounts pursuant to Rule E.6, from the date to which those interim accounts were prepared and expiring on the next accounting reference date after the end of the following Season (“Future Financial Information”). The projected profit and loss accounts, cash flow and balance sheets shall be prepared at a maximum of quarterly intervals.
E.12. The Future Financial Information shall: E.12.1. be prepared in accordance with the accounting principles adopted in the preparation of the Club’s Annual Accounts (except where the accounting principles and policies are to be changed in the subsequent Annual Accounts, in which case the new accounting principles and polices should be followed); E.12.2. be approved in writing by the board of directors of the company to which they relate; E.12.3. include in the explanatory notes thereto principal assumptions and risks; and E.12.4. include for comparison profit and loss accounts for the period covered by the Annual Accounts and interim accounts submitted pursuant to Rules E.3 and E.6, a forecast for the current financial year and a balance sheet as at the date of the interim accounts submitted pursuant to Rule E.6.
E.49. If the PSR Calculation results in losses of in excess of £105m: E.49.1. the Board may exercise its powers set out in Rule E.15; and E.49.2. the Club shall be treated as being in breach of these Rules and accordingly the Board shall refer the breach to a Commission constituted pursuant to Section W of these Rules (Disciplinary).
E.50. The sum set out in Rule E.49 shall be reduced by £22m for each Season covered by T-1, T-2 and T-3 in which the Club was in membership of The Football League.
E.51. Each Associated Party Transaction must be submitted to the Board (in such form and including such detail as required by the Board) in order for the Board to conduct a Fair Market Value Assessment of it.
Criminal charges? Does not adhering to PL rules constitute a crime? Presumably we're not accused of fraud or tax evasion?
 
First an explanation. I’ve viewed this forum practically every day since before the takeover (and even going back to Man City Info Via the Alps or whatever it was called) I joined formally in 2014 vowing not to become an active poster. I’ve posted a tiny handful of times - each time alcohol being involved. I was born in Gorton, lived in Gorton, Levenshulme, East Didsbury, Cheadle and left Manchester in 1984. My Grandad was a City fan who went to Hyde Road and my Grandson is a City fan pleading to go to the Etihad. 5 Generations of blues. No Reds in the family other than by marriage. I post quite a lot about City but in the comments sections of the press or YouTube etc. So if anyone wants a dig about my lack of posts then crack on, as I don’t give a shiny shite.

This fucking fiasco has made me pick up my ”pen”.

The fucking scummy bastards. We’re not going anywhere.

Two things : referring the matter to an Independent Commission is very much like the EPL acting as Pontius Pilate - but hey, they’ll say they’ve done their job ; & what changed after 2017/18 so that the alleged breaches just stop ?

A final observation is that I wondered at the time whether the super league was a Trojan horse as far City was concerned, so they would fuck us over once we were in !
 
The way I read it is that it is:
"Further breaches related to rules requiring full details of "manager remuneration".

These were related to the 2009-10 to 2012-13 seasons, when Roberto Mancini was in charge."

Does that mean we were paying Bobby Manc too much? Or not paying Pep enough?
C6461F5F-A453-44D5-A5B1-6900A0ABF835.jpeg
 
I disagree, the clubs approach has let us down badly, half a decade and more of continuously having to listen to accusations of cheating, ruining football, buying the league, not from other fans I get that, it's "banter" and we would do the same, but from supposedly professional people in media and within the game, all of which could and should have been challenged long before now.

We are definitely guilty of one thing, and thats indolence
It will be unpopular- but some truth in that.
 
If players were being paid additional payments, surely someone would have spoke up, for example Yaya during his feud, or players not getting additional payments would down tools. If there was a risk of medals getting taken off them, why would the likes Aguero and Silva spend most of their careers here, it would seem a waste. If they had to sign NDAs, surely there would be records of that, not sure how that would even work if its against the rules, an NDA wouldn't hold up (?) . Or would they simply not be aware of any wrong doings? If so blatantly cooking the books, why not just go all out and get the likes of Messi etc at the time
 
Last edited:
It's an interesting question.

If Sheikh Mansour felt like topping up Mancini's or Yaya's salary by £5m per year, how does the PL have the ability to find out or prove it?

They could have emails from the leak discussing it, but they can't have any financial records which makes proving it impossible.
Those allegations relate to 2010-12, so I’ve gone through our squad from that period and decided they have James Milner providing his bank statements ;) I now hate him even more than before, purely based on a fabrication of my own mind. Good enough for me.
 
I might be wrong but any possible criminal charges would surely mean the PL would have had to report any evidence to the Police and their investigation would then take priority.
 

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top