PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

KS55 said:
I don’t know the detail of the Mancini contract but I believe he was contracted to Mansour’s club before he was employed by us. Unless we took part in later negotiations concerning it remaining in place, privity of contract applies and his remuneration from the sheik is nothing to do with us.. There was no rule against having another job.
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If the leaked emails are true, then we were involved in later negotiations and were also approving and processing m the transactions to him rather than Al Jazira.

I’m assuming that’s where the charges against not declaring related parties comes from too.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The footy leaks cache was one of the biggest hacks of all time with at least 70 million documents stolen. Rui Pinto was orignally going after Benfica and Sporting Lisbon. The documents include lots of damaging allegations against Spanish Clubs. It included the Ronaldo rape allegations and FFP breaches by PSG for starters
The best question for me is why did the English media use it to launch a withchunt against City based on 5/6 emails when there were so many other great stories to run. There are still millions of documents which have never been published. Perhaps because other clubs paid up after the blackmail demands. City were probably collateral damage.
Pinto claims he got the idea from chatting to his pals in a pub in Porto. That was part of his absurd evidence.
Meanwhile Pinto is waiting for the court verdict in April which could send him to jail for a long time. The court case of course has been ignored by the English media.

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Pinto who some in the English media called a sort of crusader for good and upstanding fella when Der Spiegel gained access to some of the hacked material on City ..
 
SilvaisSkyBlue said:
There has been a propaganda war going on since we were bought, and IMO this is one of the few areas that our board/owner have largely been very poor in defending City and us the fans.

Hopefully they now realise their passive policy has been totally ineffective in stemming the constant flow of shit and untruths that have been allowed to not only be constantly repeated but are now believed by a large proportion to be true, no matter how bizarre the lie alongside the constant cheating accusations and again IMO large amount of racism.

Anyhow, we still have a large Jewish fan base and comparing our current predicament with what happened with the Nazis and the Holocaust and Kristallnacht with the smashing of our coach are comparisons that really have no bearing on one to the other and are inappropriate to use.
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You basically agreed with me then decided it was inappropriate. Ok fair enough. I just think like you the endless vile propaganda is exactly like the Nazi’s, you don’t start with murder, you start with smears and marginalisation, you condition your audience. Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.
 
it is no coincidence that the premier league charged City the same day as the government were going to announce legislation to appoint an independent scrutineer to ensure that football clubs behave properly. So to divert attention from themselves the knee jerk response is to suggest that all the problems are the fault of City. And the only “evidence” they have is the email hacker that sold his rubbish to a German newspaper. All this just after Chelsea have spent 600 million in six months. The owners of the other big clubs are trying to steal the moral highground but it won’t work. We have appointed top lawyers and if necessary we can fight this for years. Let’s adopt a siege mentality and fight this by playing top class football every week.
 
If 19 clubs could vote, we'd definitely be 9 against. Let's call it defeat. Start league two if the EFL allow. On winning the Championship one day, refuse entry to the PL. Get the joys of the Pizza Cup and FA Cup scalps...

Do the Scottish Premier need a boost? St Mark's almost sounds like St Andrew's.

Honestly, this FFP or whatever is getting tedious. Love my club, but this bile and vile witch-hunt seems endless
 
Dannyblue52 said:
I was thinking that myself. What triggered the Premier League to investigate us after we won at C A S . It must have been a complaint from other clubs. If the Premier League rules state all clubs have to comply with F.F.P. then why haven't all the clubs that have breached F.F.P. been investigated as they have clearly breached the Premier League rules. There are more than the Scouse gits. These clubs were found guilty and no action was taken as they weren't in European competition at that time.
City should make a formal complaint and demand these clubs be charged for breaking the same rules as they allege we have. Let them get out of that one.
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It's not just CAS either. Why were the other English clubs mentioned in Football Leaks not pursued apart from City? Has anyone investigated United's accounts after they paid Mino Raiola £41m when they signed Paul Pogba back from Juve. Where did that appear in the acounts or did it vanish into the Cayman Islands black-hole along with the £367,000 annual wage bill for Zlatan Ibrahimovich. These were all mentioned in the Football Leaks expose but I don't remember anyone from the English press asking United managers live on TV: "Did you pay Raiola or Zlatan off books." What a fucking disgrace this witchhunt has been.
 
manimanc said:
This is very odd what is happening.

Very, very strange.

This Qatari interest and supposed bid for the rags looks like another plot to this charade that is happening at the minute.

And this sheds light on how pathetic and bitter sky sports news and their absolute wankers who present for them.

To go from one day being judge and juror with us to the next day hardly being able to contain their smiles that the rags might get bought out AND have it as their main story is shameful.

I though sky sports was neutral? Everyone treated equally? These cunts had our pants down before the Premier league statement was finished.

I hope we take these twats down too for their bias and slander that heads our way on more than one occasion.
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You thought sky sports was Neutral?

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Thornliebank said:
You denied that a vote ever took place to expel Rangers from the Scottish premier league.
The reason I mentioned the Rangers situation was because another poster brought it up as he/she was worried something similar In punishment might happen to City. I was only explaining that City are in a far better position to defend themselves, but of course, in your blind hatred of Rangers, you stampede into the thread foaming at the mouth shouting all sorts of drivel.
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On 13 May, it was reported that Whyte had sold his controlling interest in The Rangers Football Club Plc for £2 to a consortium led by Charles Green.[118] Green offered the creditors a settlement, in the form of a company voluntary arrangement (CVA), in an attempt to exit administration.[118] On 12 June, it emerged that HMRC would reject the CVA put forward by Green. Green's takeover of the club depended on the CVA being accepted by HMRC, which would have seen £8.5m of the total debt repaid. The formal rejection of the CVA, two days later, meant that The Rangers Football Club plc entered the liquidation process. The company's business and assets were sold to a company called Sevco Scotland Ltd, a consortium led by Green, in a deal worth £5.5m.[119] Sevco was subsequently renamed The Rangers Football Club Ltd at the end of July 2012.[120]

Ten of the other eleven SPL clubs voted against allowing Rangers to transfer their SPL membership share to a new company on 4 July, leaving the club applying for a place in the Scottish Football League.[121][122] On 13 July, 29 out of 30 SFL member clubs voted to give Rangers associate membership, but 25 of them also voted to place the club into the Third Division of the Scottish Football League from the start of the season.[123]


The above (lifted from Wikipedia, admittedly) seems to contradict what you say. Rangers oldco entered liquidation, the assets sold to newco which subsequently changed its name to Rangers. This is an entirely different legal entity despite the same name (although plc =/= ltd) and to that end had to apply for membership of the SFL. Call them Rangers 1 and Rangers 2 if you like, if it makes it clearer. They're not the same entity and so had to start from scratch.

Nobody voted Rangers out, and nobody relegated them. 3 votes were taken, one which went against newco Rangers' bid to enter the SPL where oldco once were, and a 2nd to allow newco to join the SFL, and a 3rd for newco to enter the SFL in the third division.

Ultimately fundamentally different situations and an irrelevant comparison.
 
Tevez City said:
If the club was punished, fans should sue the league for not protecting them since day 1.


The league allowed Abu Dhabi to purchase the club, and then they changed the rule of the game with their financial unfair play rule

If there was any suspicious dealing, that should have been resolved after releasing their 1st financial statements.

Checks and investigations should be addressed and resolved in summer before the beginning of new season



The Premier league lack of action at the right time has cost fans money & time.
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What do you mean by "Abu Dhabi" bought the club? We are owned by Sheikh Mansour with Silverlake holding 23 per cent.
 
Noticed Cheesey has dropped a video on this 20 minutes ago. Thing is, I feel like I've watched hours worth of these discussions already. Still loads we don't know and I'm already getting bored of thinking about it. I'll probably still end up watching it later.
 
twosips said:
Thank you mate. I don't think some people realise how hard it is! Ha. They're all people who are paid to talk for a living so naturally very good at sticking the knife in. Plus I know millions watch it so the pressure is on big time. Tried my best though to get across a lot of things lots of us have wanted to say for a while!
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Just wanna jump in and agree that you were great on that…fair play, you honestly speak for me too…well done, keep it up mate…!!!
 
There seems to a great deal of worry that we may not be allowed to appeal to the High Court. If we win we certainly will not be interested in appealing to anyone: if, however, we are found guilty of fraud I suspect we would be investigated by the fraud squad and if they considered there was a case to answer we'd be in the High Court if we liked it or not. If we were acquitted the PL would be in the mess, not us. Maybe we don't need to concern ourselves with appeals procedure!
 
Goodlove said:
Just been forwarded a video of them wankers at the swamp singing ‘City’s going down with a billion in the bank’

They are going to be so so so disappointed and the tears will be beautiful.
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Thought they’d be protesting about the potential Qatari takeover seeing that they’ve been such fervent advocates of Human Rights for the last fifteen years.
 
Thornliebank said:
We got thrown down to the bottom tier due mainly to lobbying from Celtic. This was for using a tax avoidance scheme and nothing to do with going bust. It was what became the ‘ sporting integrity ‘ campaign to deliberately damage us to the maximum.
At the time the club was in administration with nobody at the helm and thus vulnerable to attacks and demands from those who seeked to gain from it. We had no say or influence whatsoever in the decision to demote us.
City are in a much stronger position with powerful backers employing the best legal minds to fight the case, so it will be far more difficult for the ‘ red shirt ‘ trio to have their pound of flesh the way Celtic had with us.
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Why was the club in administration?
 
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