PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Jesus H Gabz said:
Can’t agree more with that last paragraph & the delay got me thinking, we are supporters of new governance, am I right in thinking the only 1 of the big 6 ? and there doesn’t or hasn’t appeared to be, a good reason for the delay ? So I just wonder if those behind the White paper are re-drafting it to cover in more detail ffp, the process of appeals, and other related issues, which may in turn benefit us legally. There’s no doubt these charges where rushed out ahead of the publication of the white paper, but the PL may have snookered themselves
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Think it is us and Chelsea who are in favour of the independent regulator
 
OrigamiNinja said:
I watched it and on the one hand it does make us blues feel slightly less anxious. On the other hand, I think that surely the PL lawyers have told the PL about the high standard of proof required and yet they have pressed ahead anyway.

They’ve seen what happened at CAS, I don’t see why would the PL push ahead, unless their own lawyers have told them that they have something like the level of proof required to win?
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Yes, that nags at the back of my mind too. Have they got something we don’t know about?
Alternatively, PL decided to go ahead in order to put an end to constant pressure from the redshirts.
 
Yeah but liverpool lost out and we've done the same as city, developed the training facilities and academy structure. Developed the stadium from 48k to 61k not in debt except operational debts so we have stuck to the model, we also find young players, showcase them and sell them on eg sterling 1.5m sold 49.5m suarez 22m sold for 74m Couthino 12m sold for 142m solanke free sold for 20m nico Williams academy sold for 15m plus we did a brilliant deal with Nike and standard charter and pushed on developing of the field activities.
Agree utd but the argument is they have 500m fan base and recoup more than they spend legitimately
Chelsea 618m in 6 months like you say extended contracts but fa have said the from next season ffp will be on the contracts averaged over 5 years so they will come unstuck.

You have a loyal fan base who have been screwed over by the clubs way of accounting and alleged sponsors all being fabricated and not existing. I think they will fine yous and that's all, get some money In the FA bank account.. Please help what can I write back too this Liverpool fans without the obvious murderers shit. Sick of getting shit now.
 
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From today’s Upshot email
 
Plot thickens…..just said on sly that Jim Ratcliffe has approached Jp Morgan & GS to refinance the rags debts (if he’s successful) and sly ended with a cheeky dig that JP was a major backer of the ESL
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Possibly in need of a shake-up but possibly freer from the red clubs.

After four years, they had two choices:
- charge City, and say "we tried" to anyone who pushed them to do so, and "we were testing the rules to see if they'd been broken, as well as the non-cooperation issue" to others.

- don't charge City, and have everyone wonder what they wasted the four years doing, as well as annoying anyone pushing for an investigation (who would then go their media mates to slate them, making remaining in post untenable)

I suspect they're better off bringing the charges and having them fail.
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I don't buy that one bit. I don't know why people keep talling themselves this. Oh poor PL, they don't really want to charge us, they just want to look like they do so they can take the preasure of themselves but they are happy to fail doing it because they are really on our side.

Are they fuck. They didn't spend 4 years listing every allegation they could come up with, just to look like they tried. They have put together 100+ charges either because they think there really is something there and they have a case, or because they think they have enough to stick in whatever capacity. This is not a fucking beauty parade of legalspeak, it is a serious set of accusations, with little good to come out of it for everyone no matter how it ends.
 
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lancs blue said:
The usual suspects first approached ITV with the idea of the breakaway but didn't reach agreement, Sky came along later. Not sure why you think we were in Div.2, we were founder members of the PL!
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I’m talking about when the Sky 4/5 agreed their deal. The full PL signing by us and the rest came later. As I say, my memory of the timeline went down the drain in an alcoholic haze!
 
HelloCity said:
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I think this guy needs to engage his brain before his lips move. People won't read this, they'll just see the headline as an admission of guilt. It's fucking staggering that he's the spokesman for the supporters club. He was at it last year putting his foot in his mouth. Mr Parker, please use your spider senses in future and so fuck all !!!
 
The blue phantom said:
I'm not sure there's many on here, If any, who have said our trophies will be tainted if we are found guilty. Something he seems to say willingly.
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Correct. Nothing will alter the fact that we disrupted an ugly cartel. Or that we’ve played the best football ever seen in England.
 
Keepingthefaithsince1976 said:
Well not yet it hasn't. City were able to swallow the £10 mill fine. As I said though I didn't agree with it as by paying it, we only strengthened them & their argument that City were guilty of something. And gave them another load of dosh to spend on legal fees against us.
To answer your 2nd point I have no idea as I don't know the outcome yet. Anyone firing shots across City's bow are not going to help us yes I agree. Hopefully Mr Pannick will have a strong legal case to defend City and we will carry on as before. Playing great football, buying top players, investing in youth and the local community, expanding the stadium, keeping Pep and the worlds top players happy in their job of winning trophies, expanding CFG etc etc.
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You forgot; fucking up the rags and dippers. Otherwise, good stuff.
 
Eccles Blue said:
I do understand about the media, in two of my other roles before retirement I had a lot of dealings with them. :-)

However so has Kevin Parker and I just feel he should also know how to deal with them by now. You are correct when you say he has been a little naïve and just feel that he should be experienced enough by now. However we just have to accept that these things come to try us I guess!! :-)
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He doesn't have to say anything to them.

"Hello, this is the BBC. Can we have an interview?"

"No, fuck off, you lying toads."

Problem solved.
 
City Mike 1969 said:
... which is less than £400K/wk obviously - different rates are applied when the cases are lengthy. I know where I am, the 4 partners have charge out rates of £275 per qtr of an hour - but its very rare a client gets charged £1,100 for an hour of their time.
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That's just so they can charge phone calls, if its anything like where I worked. :)
 
Just considering Kevin Parker's comments about tainted trophies:
You'll never taint the feeling of Agueroooooooooo 93:20. Utter depression turned to sheer joy in the blink of an eye. Hugging strangers in the stands and then from the ground to the car.
Standing outside Selhurst Park hearing about Slippy G then winning five in a row,
Being at Southampton when Gabby Jesus chipped in for 100 points.
Being behind the goal at Brighton when Mahrez curled in that beauty to put us 3-1 up and effectively seal the title. And of course watching from the stands as 0-2 against Villa became 3-2.
And of course all the other stuff we've won, but I mentioned those as it's a PL stich-up.
You can't taint those memories, nor can you put an asterisk by them.
Scaring refs so they don't give correct decisions (and outspending all other teams) is OK, and being sponsored by a company linked to money laundering for criminal organisations is OK, but playing the best football ever seen is against the rules. The Premier League is not fit for purpose and never has been.
 
blueju said:
Good work there pal. What a shame nobody had time (or the inclination seeing as they all except you and Neville want us with all their might to be guilty) to push Carragher on why he feels FFP was brought in seeing as he absolutely believes it wasn’t to stop City dead in their tracks.
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Cheers mate. I think I got Neville agreeing with me on that in the end which was a big win!
 
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