PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

chickaroon said:
He used him as an example. He said that you would have to ask the CEO's and then stated him as an example. Nothing wrong with that.
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Just another example of media twisting words and that was all they could glean from the conference. Pep knew exactly what he was saying.
 
give it to gordon said:
It's not an independent panel really am I am sure City have plans should that happen.
I am expecting them to find us guilty as it's as bent as a 9 bob note.

The chairman is a gooner season ticket holder his club was behind that letter !.

You cant have an organisation which is judge and jury and not right to appeal that is a kangaroo court.

This is why I think City have some really big dirt of a few clubs. It was very odd how all the managers keep quiet. Klopp normally cant help himself remember his " it's a bad day for football " when CAS cleared City.

Now the pl CEOs are crying over Peps presser lol they seem very sensitive for some reason, very nervous.
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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Whilst I think you’re absolutely right, the only reticence one could have, in relation to any alleged conspiracy, is around leadership and culture and how that is within any organisation. If there is a culture of openness, honesty and transparency, then fraud, dishonesty and corruption would be virtually impossible.
If, however, there is a ‘toxic’ culture around a business and what’s ‘unacceptable’ is, in fact, acceptable, then the likelihood of things going awry increases hugely. Someone questions something and, if the answer from the hierarchy is, “that’s just how we do things here” it can quite quickly become the norm and that is often the driver for scandal, as opposed to a planned conspiracy.
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That’s a fair point, mate, although surely in a public organisation that type of culture is much less likely.
 
give it to gordon said:
It's not an independent panel really am I am sure City have plans should that happen.
I am expecting them to find us guilty as it's as bent as a 9 bob note.

The chairman is a gooner season ticket holder his club was behind that letter !.

You cant have an organisation which is judge and jury and not right to appeal that is a kangaroo court.

This is why I think City have some really big dirt of a few clubs. It was very odd how all the managers keep quiet. Klopp normally cant help himself remember his " it's a bad day for football " when CAS cleared City.

Now the pl CEOs are crying over Peps presser lol they seem very sensitive for some reason, very nervous.
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I think this is just the the city in us (expect the worse) the people on the independent panel have there reputation there career's on the line. It's much more than who they support imagine what our lawyers would do to them if found guilty without substantial evidence?? We would drag them through every court in the land and ruin them it's just not in there interest to give anything but a fair hearing on the evidence provided.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Taking my blue-tinted spectacles off, the more I think about it, the more absurd the notion that the club has systemically and substantially cooked the books becomes.

It would involve a deception on a par with Bernie Madoff, but to involve a much greater conspiracy, in terms of numbers involved. It would also involve incompetence from auditors and banks on a scale similar to the SEC and Bear Stearns in the Madoff case. Logic says the likelihood of all that occurring to be vanishingly small. The serious charges simply make no sense, if logic is applied. There may be a couple of technical breaches, but that would be true of any club.

Conspiracies are notoriously hard to keep going over a sustained period. The bigger, the harder. People fall out, or become aggrieved, or something unforeseeable occurs to move the pieces on the board. Something always happens eventually. The notion this size of conspiracy went on for the period alleged simply doesn’t hold any water.

Something evidential would have come out by now.
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Thanks for that G..
Slander if used should be spread thickly is the very old advice.
Not sure about libel.
 
Jam Tomorrow said:
So do City get to choose a rep on this three person panel ? Or do we just get our legal men to put our case to the panel? My main concern is the objectivity of the panel. If it’s completely above board and we are bang to rights then I can accept that, if it’s a kangaroo court with little or no avenue to appeal then that is my big concern.
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It's not even going to be heard, this is PL regulating itself death. Government is taking over the governance of English football, the fans finally saw the mask slip with the European super league and revolted enough for government to listen.
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
Those other 8 clubs sent a joint letter to Uefa and the CAS to hurry up a legal process three years ago. In essence, don’t properly look at the facts. Hasten up your progress to the verdict cos one of those 8 clubs could do with having City’s space in the Champions league. Nothing to do with fair legal process, just pure opportunistic greed to gain something they weren’t good enough to attain on a pitch.

Now they are crying cos Pep has called them out, I bet behind the scenes Levy has been jumping up and down for action on City. There’s no coincidence Spurs are sat in 5th and would be the ones most likely to gain from any points sanction being handed out.

The charges and sanctions being attempted to dish out have been pushed by other clubs wanting this to happen. The Premier league would probably prefer to just close the case and forget about it. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, they have to be seen as doing something as 5 of those clubs have been plotting to set up a Super League.
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Good post, also those 5 clubs are not in favour of an independent regulator.
 
Jam Tomorrow said:
So do City get to choose a rep on this three person panel ? Or do we just get our legal men to put our case to the panel? My main concern is the objectivity of the panel. If it’s completely above board and we are bang to rights then I can accept that, if it’s a kangaroo court with little or no avenue to appeal then that is my big concern.
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This is is Rosen in his last case

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